You're no snowflake, which I always respect in a poster.

Obviously I tend to agree with Hrolf on most things. Where we might differ that's fine.....hell, people make too much of political difference anyway.....it's not like any of us can make the blind bit of difference to any of it.

I'm not someone who gets bothered by skin colour because I believe in the individual. That doesn't mean I'm blind to the different statistics on violence and other behaviours connected to different communities. It's just that every individual deserves the right to be judged for their character....similar to what MLK said more than fifty years ago. I'm more interested in allegiance.....perhaps I'm a fool, perhaps I'm right...at the end of the day what I think makes not a jot of difference. All I can do is vote with the ballot box or my feet.

But I am an ethnocentrist. I do think the 'west is best' and that cultural relativism is a bag of balls.

As a teacher that had me very much a political minority. I kept my mouth shut in the staffroom....but that's alright because it shouldn't be the job of a mainstream teacher to be politically biased anyway....but unfortunately not all of them see it that way.

PV's got it in for you.....but surely it's too hot to be angry. Let's just chill and have a cool drink in the sun

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 May 2018 5.17pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I am sure we could talk sensibly face to face with a beer, a nice warm pint of wallop (as battle action comics would say) in front of us. I feel the topic ( of British and the UK) is bigger than just ethnocentrism.

Many though just can't see past the initial physical issues and a fear of what they do not understand, nor have they properly researched, apart from reading literature which already agrees with their POV.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

It is rather significant for the future of this country.
As a poster and a parent, I have a strong opinion about it. Is it something I obsess about internally? No.
I'm too much of a realist to think that I can really affect any of it. I also realise that obviously, none of it will be a problem for me after I'm dead.

These threads are to share opinions and ideas.
I do understand that some people's only mission in life is to score some imaginary points against other posters but I really couldn't care less. I'm 54. I think what I think and others can like it or not. I'm certain that there is political commonality among all the posters here if we cared to find it but some prefer the adversarial approach. It really isn't important either way. There is little room for nuance on a discussion thread so arguments tend to become very polarised. That is the nature of the beast.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (06 May 2018 8.28pm)

I didn't say it was a great result for Labour (except in London - as I said earlier best since 1971 here). Neither do I think Brexit was the main issue. What I was saying is that the Tories are going to split over it because there will have to be a compromise which allows trade without hindrance with Europe (Customs union or some other similar arrangement) which will not be accepted by the extreme Brexit people in the cabinet and amongst the Tory MPs. When that moment comes (I would guess around September) one side or the other will not accept the outcome and the split will become manifest. My hunch is that there will be a general election before the year is out.I agree that Corbyn himself will be happy for us to be out of EU because EU rules would make a lot of his programme implement impossible to implement but practically no one in the LP would split over a customs union issue.

Moron ? name calling. bullying. Mods give him a red please.

Eagles, whenever this troll just keeps banging on and on and insulting everybody you should click the yellow triangle in the bottom left corner and alert a moderator to a boring lefty troll with no interest in football nor palace.

thanks

Edited by PalazioVecchio (07 May 2018 2.07pm)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

name calling. bullying. Alert a moderator to stop this bloke ruining it for everybody else. At no point have i thrown insulting labels at people. Its your modus operandi.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford