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 Tim Gypsy Hill '64  Stoke sub normal 10 Feb 20 11.35pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Oh I don't doubt there are some wind up merchants and trolls there but you can still gain a sense of what people are thinking. On the Trump supporting groups he is almost a god. He certainly can do nothing wrong. It's nothing less than a cult. He is milking the Bible belt for all it's worth. On the anti Trump groups he is hated more than any US politician than I have ever seen. That includes Obama who was vilified for years by the right. Trump has divided the USA and has done nothing at all to try to heal that division. Indeed he is actively trying to make it worse. That this has happened alongside our own divisive event makes me feel very uncomfortable. I think the USA is a country in crisis who will face many challenges in future years. That in turn raises huge questions for everyone else, which we will struggle to solve alone. Expecting that a trade deal with them could be a panacea for us is very foolish in my view. You do realise that people who use Facebook are more interested in what you had for breakfast, or what their pet has just done, or how they look in the latest selfie, than anything that has any importance? And you take notice of this, and hold weight to it. UNFEKKINGBELIEVEABLE!!!!!!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 20 11.37pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
How do you anti trump folk feel about the death of the Iranian general now with hindsight. Do you now think trump was right? It continues to make me feel very uncomfortable. I understand the realities of what is effectively an undeclared war between Iran and Israel, supported by the USA. Normal rules don't apply to wars. I would though have preferred this to have been done by a proxy or, if by the USA, for them to have denied all responsibility. It's timing and the way Trump behaved afterwards leeds me to think this was much more to do with playing to a domestic audience than any real strategic imperative. Generals get replaced. Perhaps by even better ones. The unfortunate downing of the passenger plane came to Trump's immediate rescue in terms of instant retaliations. The Iranians had too much to deal with at home than mount reprisals. I doubt though that will last for ever and that something will happen at sometime. Americans will lose their lives because Trump needed a big diversion at home to take the viewers eyes away from impeachment.
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| dannyboy1978 10 Feb 20 11.43pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It continues to make me feel very uncomfortable. I understand the realities of what is effectively an undeclared war between Iran and Israel, supported by the USA. Normal rules don't apply to wars. I would though have preferred this to have been done by a proxy or, if by the USA, for them to have denied all responsibility. It's timing and the way Trump behaved afterwards leeds me to think this was much more to do with playing to a domestic audience than any real strategic imperative. Generals get replaced. Perhaps by even better ones. The unfortunate downing of the passenger plane came to Trump's immediate rescue in terms of instant retaliations. The Iranians had too much to deal with at home than mount reprisals. I doubt though that will last for ever and that something will happen at sometime. Americans will lose their lives because Trump needed a big diversion at home to take the viewers eyes away from impeachment. Really? Trump killed a mass murderer and there have been no real reprisals. Trump called it right, Edited by dannyboy1978 (10 Feb 2020 11.49pm)
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 10 Feb 20 11.47pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It continues to make me feel very uncomfortable. I understand the realities of what is effectively an undeclared war between Iran and Israel, supported by the USA. Normal rules don't apply to wars. I would though have preferred this to have been done by a proxy or, if by the USA, for them to have denied all responsibility. It's timing and the way Trump behaved afterwards leeds me to think this was much more to do with playing to a domestic audience than any real strategic imperative. Generals get replaced. Perhaps by even better ones. The unfortunate downing of the passenger plane came to Trump's immediate rescue in terms of instant retaliations. The Iranians had too much to deal with at home than mount reprisals. I doubt though that will last for ever and that something will happen at sometime. Americans will lose their lives because Trump needed a big diversion at home to take the viewers eyes away from impeachment. An unfortunate downing of a plane. Gloss over that. It was Trumps rescue. If Trump downed that plane, KILL THE B'STARD
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Feb 20 11.50pm |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
You do realise that people who use Facebook are more interested in what you had for breakfast, or what their pet has just done, or how they look in the latest selfie, than anything that has any importance? And you take notice of this, and hold weight to it. UNFEKKINGBELIEVEABLE!!!!!! I am not interested in that kind of gossip. These are FB groups which do deal with serious issues. Search for them. You can read the posts without joining. I'll give you 2 so you can get a flavour "Vote Trump Only" as a pro group and "A SKUNK NAMED TRUMP" as an anti group.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 11 Feb 20 12.07am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am not interested in that kind of gossip. These are FB groups which do deal with serious issues. Search for them. You can read the posts without joining. I'll give you 2 so you can get a flavour "Vote Trump Only" as a pro group and "A SKUNK NAMED TRUMP" as an anti group. But they're not really serious, are they. It's Facebook. Like most social media, it's used by people who have time to use it, not the majority, who are at work. Earning money. To pay taxes. To keep these social media wasters alive. They are not the real world. If you start to believe them, you have too much time on you hands. Come on man, you must understand that?
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 11 Feb 20 12.25am |
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Ok, I googled "A SKUNK NAMED TRUMP". A serious FB group. After the picture of a skunk with Trump's face edited onto it. the following: "f*** this windbag" "When you spew bulls*** all day long, you mouth starts to look like an asshole" Maybe I typed in the wrong address? Is it me? Am I the fool? e: Forgot to say, couldn't find the other reference anywhere. Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (11 Feb 2020 12.34am) Also, if you think that is a serious group of people you are so far removed from reality that you are not worth debating with. Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (11 Feb 2020 12.48am) In fact, the more I read, the more deranged it sounds. Wisbech Eagle, have you ever thought about talking to somebody neutral, face to face? I'm getting worried about your grip on reality. Palace fan to Palace fan, I care for your health. Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (11 Feb 2020 12.59am)
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| W12 11 Feb 20 4.27am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There were many more than 2 prosecutions and more to come yet, when the time is right. The big fish are in the but it's not being pulled in just yet as the water is too choppy and they could escape. Everything comes to those who wait. Agreed, but they won’t be Republicans. They certainly have it coming.
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| Stirlingsays 11 Feb 20 3.14pm |
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Here's (I'm not an elitist) WE's man....billionaire Michael Bloomberg talking about crime and policing minorities. [Tweet Link]
Yum yum....so delicious. He's talking sense of course and he was relatively successful on crime in New York....relatively. However,....truth in today's 'woke' Democratic party is like a grenade bomb.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Feb 20 9.45am |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Not an inch of spin involved. What I said on "page 400" and in the last day or so are both true. I suggest you re-read them. American ex pats and locally born rural Filipinos compromise different groups. One maintain a lively interest in US politics and watch the US news channels and read on the net, whilst the other only follow local news.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Feb 20 9.56am |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
But they're not really serious, are they. It's Facebook. Like most social media, it's used by people who have time to use it, not the majority, who are at work. Earning money. To pay taxes. To keep these social media wasters alive. They are not the real world. If you start to believe them, you have too much time on you hands. Come on man, you must understand that? Some might well be retired, unable to work or unwilling to work, but they still vote. You can get a flavour of the divisive mood which permeates US society these days, and the type of reasoning that lies behind it. You can work out how and why their views are being shaped by the "information" and propaganda that's posted there. If FB group's, and the like, were not so important why on earth do you think they are targeted in the way they now are by those who wish to promote their views? Why would Trump bother with Twitter if it didn't matter? It's in this way that you can spread "your" message, your own version of what is true, to the masses without having the filter of a journalist fact checking it. Unless it's a Fox "journalist" as they have become mouthpieces for team Trump and his propaganda. If you want to know how effective these campaigns have been then staying in touch with such groups is essential.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Feb 20 10.01am |
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Not traditional Republicans it's true. They are Trumpians. Some politicians. Some lawyers. Some journalists. All are criminals. They will be prosecuted at State level where a Presidential pardon is unavailable. The only way to stop it would be if Trump finds a way to suspend the constitution. Watch this space. He might try.
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