Yeah yeah and your accommodation has awesome views and a nice balcony.

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

Just like it doesn't matter here how people feel about things.it doesn't matter in Russia either....surprised to hear you promoting populism there Steely.

As with us these are highly propagandized people and the vast majority will 'go along to get along'. The vast amount of the military will be working class lads looking for a living.....with the difference that they haven't been fed generational commie crap for fifty years so there won't be any pronouns in their bios or all the rest of the self indulgent crap.

The sad fact is that Europe has decided to be the US's client state just as much as Belarus appears to be Russia's. The whole policy towards this war has been the same group think disaster that lockdown was. These sanctions hurt us just as much as Russia and the only people who really suffer from them are the working classes and vulnerable anyway....why it's so easy for elites to use them.

As I and others stated early on....Ukraine can't win this war....the best we can hope for is for Russia to implode or for a very expensive continual stalemate....but it's more likely that Russia will slowly take more cities and territory than would have been the case if we had negotiated back in 21.

Outside of Robert Kennedy Junior the Democrats are the neo con party....the Republicans are full of them too but at least their main candidates for the 2024 election want to negotiate a peace rather than continually spend on this mess.

Personally I don't want a cold war where we are now under serious threat from several quarters I want cheap energy and Russia is that gateway.....But that's been taken away.

Ultimately I blame the US state department more than I do Russia for the background of why this war happened.....but as I said, Russia is to blame for the invasion, which I think was a terrible decision.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

As I and others stated early on....Ukraine can't win this war....the best we can hope for is for Russia to implode or for a very expensive continual stalemate....but it's more likely that Russia will slowly take more cities and territory than would have been the case if we had negotiated back in 21.

It has been shown beyond doubt that any agreements negotiated with Putin are worthless. Putin would simply promise one thing then do as he intended anyway.

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

Seen an interesting take on this, putting forward the opinion that it is a sign of real desperation. Essentially the Ukranians are using shells at a rate that cannot be replaced, for almost zero gains.

Since this particular type of shell is considered so controversial, then it is a kind of scrapping of the barrel stunt because they have very little else to supply and putting forward a viewpoint that for the type of fighting involved, they are not that practical.

But like everything else in this wretched war that sees Europeans killing Europeans at the behest of non-Europeans, who honestly knows what the true motives are.

But this is bad PR for the US, no matter what.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

The issue as I see it is that Russia simply cannot lose it. And they have the war economy now gearing up, producing their own tanks and so on whereas Ukraine is purely dependent on outside aid.

Not even sure if these much-fabled F-16's will make any real difference because even if they get them up in the air, and can keep them up due to logistical demands, they are up against a far more modern generation of Russian planes along with one of the most effective air-defense systems that has been battle honed.

Now I try not to play armchair general, especially in this sordid conflict because NOTHING is what it seems to be, with almost no impartial sources. But from what I understand, Russia has massive reserves, is building up its armour and is absorbing everything Ukraine can throw at it.

The only reason I can see for this war being prolonged is because a lot of people are getting bloody rich off the back of it, along with Biden simply far too invested to take the L.

My suspicion at this time is that it will take something like Biden being out of the game for this war to come to an end as Ukraine is nothing more than a proxy at this stage.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Yep, it's a disaster.

It's like covid, there are a hell of a lot of people who agreed with really bad judgements that now we all have to collectively pay for. If the media sell it right people today cheer on their own decline.

Biden and the rest of them will double down until they are removed.....they can't admit to even themselves that they have worsened this because to do so would be to admit culpability.

Anyone giving this serious analysis at the start realised that unless you could destroy Russia's economy this wasn't a war that Ukraine could win.

If Nato were fighting it then sure, eventually Russia would be beaten, however we'd also probably all be dead.

This should have been negotiated back in March 21 and hundreds of thousands of young men have died for nothing.

No one should support this war continuing unless they are personally prepared to go fight in it.

All it's done is create a new cold war and a Russia/China coalition. There are far more hardliners close to power in Russia than Putin and all I hear are normies thinking it's great if Russia breaks up.

We have been in dangerous waters since this started and everybody just wants to swim deeper because that's what the elites are selling them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jul 2023 9.51pm)

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