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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jan 23 10.47pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Well that HAS to be worth the £40billion we’ve spent so far then.

Depends how many you bring back but I've saved a good few quid.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 17 Jan 23 10.59pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Depends how many you bring back but I've saved a good few quid.

Stunts your growth, them fags. And as for the French, I’ve never forgiven them for Renaults. Littering our motorway hard shoulders and all.

If you’ve saved £105 in a year you break even on the increase in your food bill due to Brexit. But not all the other stuff.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 17 Jan 23 11.02pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

interesting from the tory leader of the commons, Penny Mordaunt.

Penny Mordaunt has given a damning assessment of the state of the UK, where she said many people feel things do not work for them and the poorest think the system is rigged against them, arguing that democracy and capitalism are hanging in the balance.

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jan 23 11.09pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Stunts your growth, them fags. And as for the French, I’ve never forgiven them for Renaults. Littering our motorway hard shoulders and all.

If you’ve saved £105 in a year you break even on the increase in your food bill due to Brexit. But not all the other stuff.

I've been on them for 48 years and I'm 6'4" so maybe the stunting is just as well.
Blame Nicole and her dad for all those crumpled Renaults.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 18 Jan 23 4.34am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

interesting from the tory leader of the commons, Penny Mordaunt.

Penny Mordaunt has given a damning assessment of the state of the UK, where she said many people feel things do not work for them and the poorest think the system is rigged against them, arguing that democracy and capitalism are hanging in the balance.

Well considering you have never supported Democracy nor capitalism I suspect this makes you a rather enthusiastic supporter of the current direction.

Personally, politically, I regard Penny Mordaunt as awful.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 18 Jan 23 7.50am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah, clearly you have seen those Brexit benefits. Do enlighten us.

The key one is being able to elect the people that make the laws that govern us.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Jan 23 8.14am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Stunts your growth, them fags. And as for the French, I’ve never forgiven them for Renaults. Littering our motorway hard shoulders and all.

If you’ve saved £105 in a year you break even on the increase in your food bill due to Brexit. But not all the other stuff.

Don't you mean the 2cv. Only the French could design a car that is made of paper and looks like an overturned pram, and then sell it to to the British.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 18 Jan 23 9.28am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

The key one is being able to elect the people that make the laws that govern us.

Do tell which new laws have improved our lot.

In truth laws made in the US and EU govern us just as much now given our weak economy. It's just that we no longer have a say in the EU's laws.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Jan 23 9.48am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Do tell which new laws have improved our lot.

In truth laws made in the US and EU govern us just as much now given our weak economy. It's just that we no longer have a say in the EU's laws.

Brexit was always a 2 step process for me.

1. Exit the EU
2. Elect a government that puts this country first. So far I will not defend the Tories they have made a shambles of Brexit and not delivered on their promises still we can always vote them out.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 18 Jan 23 11.03am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Do tell which new laws have improved our lot.

In truth laws made in the US and EU govern us just as much now given our weak economy. It's just that we no longer have a say in the EU's laws.

If you don't think a UK government's laws improve your lot , then you can vote for another potential government. When in the EU, if you didn't think their laws improved your lot, you could do nothing about it. Also, it is of course nonsense to say that US and EU law governs us as much as UK laws.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 18 Jan 23 12.22pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Brexit was always a 2 step process for me.

1. Exit the EU
2. Elect a government that puts this country first. So far I will not defend the Tories they have made a shambles of Brexit and not delivered on their promises still we can always vote them out.

This will be the game with Brexit over the next few years - a slow shift in narrative to blaming the government's inability to deliver the Brexit people expected, rather than any problem with Brexit itself.

The media will allow this to happen, and in fact will be huge facilitators of it, but we will never collectively have an acceptance or an admission that it was just a flawed idea to begin with.

Leavers have won every vote since the referendum - all the prominent members of the Vote Leave campaign have had their chance to deliver, and none have been able to.

There is no government capable of delivering a good 'Brexit'.

I'd recommend to anyone going back and watching some of the Vote Leave adverts which you can still find out on Youtube - it could not be further from the reality of how it's played out. Project Fear.

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 18 Jan 23 12.57pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

If you don't think a UK government's laws improve your lot , then you can vote for another potential government. When in the EU, if you didn't think their laws improved your lot, you could do nothing about it. Also, it is of course nonsense to say that US and EU law governs us as much as UK laws.

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