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george1212 london 01 Jul 24 3.07pm
Originally posted by MrRobbo Its baffling isn't it. Especially considering how well Gordon did when he came on last match. Why wouldn't he be the 60 min go to?! There is a theory going around that suggests that Southgate thought we were drawing and hence made late substitutions. Which is unlikely but his choice of putting on Toney with seconds to go is equally baffling. So in some senses him thinking the Foden goal counted makes more sense. Either way, had Bellingham not scored that wonder goal out of nowhere Southgate would be forever remembered for this awful game as his last - which would have defined his legacy. Edited by george1212 (01 Jul 2024 3.10pm)
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london 01 Jul 24 3.07pm

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Its baffling isn't it. Especially considering how well Gordon did when he came on last match. Why wouldn't he be the 60 min go to?!

There is a theory going around that suggests that Southgate thought we were drawing and hence made late substitutions.

Which is unlikely but his choice of putting on Toney with seconds to go is equally baffling. So in some senses him thinking the Foden goal counted makes more sense.

Either way, had Bellingham not scored that wonder goal out of nowhere Southgate would be forever remembered for this awful game as his last - which would have defined his legacy.

Edited by george1212 (01 Jul 2024 3.10pm)

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Jul 24 3.09pm
Originally posted by MrRobbo Might thoughts entirely. I wont have it that this is a step up in quality, and as you said, there is nothing to suggest that he would crack under the pressure. I am now certain that the issue with this team is Rice, and as a result the CM as a whole. Wharton and Mainoo would represent a dynamic, technically gifted CM. Totally agree, 3 different players tried along side him, got subbed. It's Rice, he's the weak link. I posted this same thing a few days ago. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Jul 24 3.09pm

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Might thoughts entirely. I wont have it that this is a step up in quality, and as you said, there is nothing to suggest that he would crack under the pressure.

I am now certain that the issue with this team is Rice, and as a result the CM as a whole. Wharton and Mainoo would represent a dynamic, technically gifted CM.

Totally agree, 3 different players tried along side him, got subbed. It's Rice, he's the weak link. I posted this same thing a few days ago.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Jul 24 3.18pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Totally agree, 3 different players tried along side him, got subbed. It's Rice, he's the weak link. I posted this same thing a few days ago. He's incredibly overrated. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Jul 24 3.18pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Totally agree, 3 different players tried along side him, got subbed. It's Rice, he's the weak link. I posted this same thing a few days ago.

He's incredibly overrated.

Red and Blue Army!

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Jul 24 3.26pm
UEFA are now investigating Bellingham for a 'gesture' made after scoring his equaliser on Sunday . . . [Link] This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Jul 24 3.26pm

UEFA are now investigating Bellingham for a 'gesture' made after scoring his equaliser on Sunday . . . [Link]

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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dreamwaverider London 01 Jul 24 3.27pm
Originally posted by MrRobbo Might thoughts entirely. I wont have it that this is a step up in quality, and as you said, there is nothing to suggest that he would crack under the pressure. I am now certain that the issue with this team is Rice, and as a result the CM as a whole. Wharton and Mainoo would represent a dynamic, technically gifted CM. With you 100%, but it won't happen under Southgate. He has got his formula and nothing is going to change.
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Originally posted by MrRobbo

Might thoughts entirely. I wont have it that this is a step up in quality, and as you said, there is nothing to suggest that he would crack under the pressure.

I am now certain that the issue with this team is Rice, and as a result the CM as a whole. Wharton and Mainoo would represent a dynamic, technically gifted CM.

With you 100%, but it won't happen under Southgate. He has got his formula and nothing is going to change.

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dreamwaverider London 01 Jul 24 3.31pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 UEFA are now investigating Bellingham for a 'gesture' made after scoring his equaliser on Sunday . . . [Link] Bellingham has always got an answer. He is an arrogant arrse.
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London 01 Jul 24 3.31pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

UEFA are now investigating Bellingham for a 'gesture' made after scoring his equaliser on Sunday . . . [Link]

Bellingham has always got an answer. He is an arrogant arrse.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 01 Jul 24 3.39pm
Rice yesterday: 100% tackles won 100% dribbles completed 90% pass accuracy 80 passes completed 7/7 long passes completed 6/6 ground duels won 4/4 tackles won He’s not in great form and needs to be braver in possession, but he’s a long way from a weak link.
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Rice yesterday:

100% tackles won
100% dribbles completed
90% pass accuracy
80 passes completed
7/7 long passes completed
6/6 ground duels won
4/4 tackles won

He’s not in great form and needs to be braver in possession, but he’s a long way from a weak link.

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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 01 Jul 24 3.44pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Totally agree, 3 different players tried along side him, got subbed. It's Rice, he's the weak link. I posted this same thing a few days ago. I reckon Southgate's got an ad lined up with a Chinese Restaurant chain this time instead of a pizza chain. He'll be advertising the slogan "You can try whatever you like but it's got to go with Rice". Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.
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Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 01 Jul 24 3.44pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Totally agree, 3 different players tried along side him, got subbed. It's Rice, he's the weak link. I posted this same thing a few days ago.

I reckon Southgate's got an ad lined up with a Chinese Restaurant chain this time instead of a pizza chain. He'll be advertising the slogan "You can try whatever you like but it's got to go with Rice".

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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YT Oxford 01 Jul 24 3.52pm
Originally posted by mezzer I reckon Southgate's got an ad lined up with a Chinese Restaurant chain this time instead of a pizza chain. He'll be advertising the slogan "You can try whatever you like but it's got to go with Rice". Ah! That explains why the other night when a cup landed by his foot, he shouted towards the crowd: "What Kung Fu dat?" Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 01 Jul 24 3.52pm

Originally posted by mezzer

Ah! That explains why the other night when a cup landed by his foot, he shouted towards the crowd: "What Kung Fu dat?"

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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MrRobbo Chaldon 01 Jul 24 4.03pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Rice yesterday: 100% tackles won 100% dribbles completed 90% pass accuracy 80 passes completed 7/7 long passes completed 6/6 ground duels won 4/4 tackles won He’s not in great form and needs to be braver in possession, but he’s a long way from a weak link. He's a boring player. I'd guess 75 of those passes were backwards. Whenever he is under the slightest pressure, he turns back. He has very little 'pre-scanning' as they call it now, so he gets the ball and then gets his head up. Its accurate but: - Ensures that any attacker that had found a yard of space is now marked - Slows the pace Some of the issues at the minute isn't so much players playing terribly. But using the same players regardless of oppo. e.g. Against these lesser oppos, why are we not playing Trent at RB/RWB.
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Chaldon 01 Jul 24 4.03pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Rice yesterday:

100% tackles won
100% dribbles completed
90% pass accuracy
80 passes completed
7/7 long passes completed
6/6 ground duels won
4/4 tackles won

He’s not in great form and needs to be braver in possession, but he’s a long way from a weak link.

He's a boring player. I'd guess 75 of those passes were backwards. Whenever he is under the slightest pressure, he turns back.

He has very little 'pre-scanning' as they call it now, so he gets the ball and then gets his head up. Its accurate but:
- Ensures that any attacker that had found a yard of space is now marked
- Slows the pace

Some of the issues at the minute isn't so much players playing terribly. But using the same players regardless of oppo.

e.g.
Against these lesser oppos, why are we not playing Trent at RB/RWB.

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samprior Hamburg 01 Jul 24 4.09pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Rice yesterday: 100% tackles won 100% dribbles completed 90% pass accuracy 80 passes completed 7/7 long passes completed 6/6 ground duels won 4/4 tackles won He’s not in great form and needs to be braver in possession, but he’s a long way from a weak link. Definitely not a weak link. Just hasn't been partnered with the right player. As palace fans I think we all know what the answer is but unfortunately the man in charge doesn't appear to know.
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Hamburg 01 Jul 24 4.09pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Rice yesterday:

100% tackles won
100% dribbles completed
90% pass accuracy
80 passes completed
7/7 long passes completed
6/6 ground duels won
4/4 tackles won

He’s not in great form and needs to be braver in possession, but he’s a long way from a weak link.

Definitely not a weak link. Just hasn't been partnered with the right player. As palace fans I think we all know what the answer is but unfortunately the man in charge doesn't appear to know.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 01 Jul 24 4.10pm
Originally posted by MrRobbo He's a boring player. I'd guess 75 of those passes were backwards. Whenever he is under the slightest pressure, he turns back. He has very little 'pre-scanning' as they call it now, so he gets the ball and then gets his head up. Its accurate but: - Ensures that any attacker that had found a yard of space is now marked - Slows the pace Some of the issues at the minute isn't so much players playing terribly. But using the same players regardless of oppo. e.g. Against these lesser oppos, why are we not playing Trent at RB/RWB. Yeah I don’t disagree with your criticisms specifically, but that doesn’t make him a bad player - he’s never been picked for his forward passing or creativity. He’s a ball-winner with solid technique and very good athleticism. You could replace Rice next game and it still wouldn’t solve the structural problems with our system.
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SE19 01 Jul 24 4.10pm

Originally posted by MrRobbo

He's a boring player. I'd guess 75 of those passes were backwards. Whenever he is under the slightest pressure, he turns back.

Some of the issues at the minute isn't so much players playing terribly. But using the same players regardless of oppo.

e.g.
Against these lesser oppos, why are we not playing Trent at RB/RWB.

Yeah I don’t disagree with your criticisms specifically, but that doesn’t make him a bad player - he’s never been picked for his forward passing or creativity. He’s a ball-winner with solid technique and very good athleticism.

You could replace Rice next game and it still wouldn’t solve the structural problems with our system.

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