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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 26 Jun 24 8.14am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by YT

It's bound to be a Mercedes.

LOL

 


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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 26 Jun 24 9.17am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I haven’t seen Eze’s contract and doubt that anybody on this site has either.

However, if it is true that it includes a release clause which clubs are currently seeking to exercise, it puts further emphasis on the point which I raised earlier in this discussion.
I have been surprised by the relaxed attitude of many to Olise’s potential departure via a release clause.
Will they be as relaxed if we lose Eze in the same way in this window?

I disagree that our only option is to include the clauses if we want to sign these players.

There’s another option which is to sign players who want to play for the club and are not looking for an exit before the ink is barely dry on the contract.

There’s an argument that it gives the club certainty if a sale is made.
However, does anybody seriously think £50-60 million is a fair market value for Olise?
If there was a bidding war in the absence of such clause it would likely to be closer to £100 million.

I know if we sell Eze and Olise with release clauses we will make far more money than we paid for them.
Great, but at what cost to the team and preparations for next season.

Furthermore, let’s hire Brighton’s negotiator to prepare the release clauses.
£115m for Caceido
£60m for Cucerella.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Jun 24 9.31am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I haven’t seen Eze’s contract and doubt that anybody on this site has either.

However, if it is true that it includes a release clause which clubs are currently seeking to exercise, it puts further emphasis on the point which I raised earlier in this discussion.
I have been surprised by the relaxed attitude of many to Olise’s potential departure via a release clause.
Will they be as relaxed if we lose Eze in the same way in this window?

I disagree that our only option is to include the clauses if we want to sign these players.

There’s another option which is to sign players who want to play for the club and are not looking for an exit before the ink is barely dry on the contract.

There’s an argument that it gives the club certainty if a sale is made.
However, does anybody seriously think £50-60 million is a fair market value for Olise?
If there was a bidding war in the absence of such clause it would likely to be closer to £100 million.

I know if we sell Eze and Olise with release clauses we will make far more money than we paid for them.
Great, but at what cost to the team and preparations for next season.

Furthermore, let’s hire Brighton’s negotiator to prepare the release clauses.
£115m for Caceido
£60m for Cucerella.

These players cost Brighton around £20 Mill in transfer fees.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 26 Jun 24 9.34am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I haven’t seen Eze’s contract and doubt that anybody on this site has either.

However, if it is true that it includes a release clause which clubs are currently seeking to exercise, it puts further emphasis on the point which I raised earlier in this discussion.
I have been surprised by the relaxed attitude of many to Olise’s potential departure via a release clause.
Will they be as relaxed if we lose Eze in the same way in this window?

I disagree that our only option is to include the clauses if we want to sign these players.

There’s another option which is to sign players who want to play for the club and are not looking for an exit before the ink is barely dry on the contract.

There’s an argument that it gives the club certainty if a sale is made.
However, does anybody seriously think £50-60 million is a fair market value for Olise?
If there was a bidding war in the absence of such clause it would likely to be closer to £100 million.

I know if we sell Eze and Olise with release clauses we will make far more money than we paid for them.
Great, but at what cost to the team and preparations for next season.

Furthermore, let’s hire Brighton’s negotiator to prepare the release clauses.
£115m for Caceido
£60m for Cucerella.

My take is that both Olise and Eze would only sign new contracts provided a release clause was included. If the club had not done so then it's possible that both players ( Olise certainly ) would have already left the club.

Agree that the amount of the release clause seems heavily weighted in favour of the players in these cases. Olise is certainly worth far more than Palace are receiving for him.

In terms of Caceido and Cucerella, my understanding was that Caceido didn't have a fee attached to his release clause and Cucurella didn't have one at all. But it seems ridiculous that Brighton were able to extract those sums for those players.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Jun 24 9.45am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

My take is that both Olise and Eze would only sign new contracts provided a release clause was included. If the club had not done so then it's possible that both players ( Olise certainly ) would have already left the club.

Agree that the amount of the release clause seems heavily weighted in favour of the players in these cases. Olise is certainly worth far more than Palace are receiving for him.

In terms of Caceido and Cucerella, my understanding was that Caceido didn't have a fee attached to his release clause and Cucurella didn't have one at all. But it seems ridiculous that Brighton were able to extract those sums for those players.

Both were signed by Chelsea last season when the club embarked on a gargantuan spending spree, purchasing 11 players.

Edited by Willo (26 Jun 2024 9.46am)

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Online Flag Oxford 26 Jun 24 10.07am Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

In the case of Olise , maybe built in the clause was the demand only a major club outside of the Premier league could deal. Failing that maybe no premier side could meet a financial demand, in fact that’s what some have claimed . Either way it seems any effort by a home club to trigger a release clause was only possible at great expense.
Whatever the truth, I can,t see why Eze,s contract would be any the easier to open so if no one in the premier could afford Olise, it wouldn’t seem likely Spurs have any chance.

 

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View eritheagle's Profile eritheagle Flag Erith 26 Jun 24 10.07am Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I haven’t seen Eze’s contract and doubt that anybody on this site has either.

However, if it is true that it includes a release clause which clubs are currently seeking to exercise, it puts further emphasis on the point which I raised earlier in this discussion.
I have been surprised by the relaxed attitude of many to Olise’s potential departure via a release clause.
Will they be as relaxed if we lose Eze in the same way in this window?

I disagree that our only option is to include the clauses if we want to sign these players.

There’s another option which is to sign players who want to play for the club and are not looking for an exit before the ink is barely dry on the contract.

There’s an argument that it gives the club certainty if a sale is made.
However, does anybody seriously think £50-60 million is a fair market value for Olise?
If there was a bidding war in the absence of such clause it would likely to be closer to £100 million.

I know if we sell Eze and Olise with release clauses we will make far more money than we paid for them.
Great, but at what cost to the team and preparations for next season.

Furthermore, let’s hire Brighton’s negotiator to prepare the release clauses.
£115m for Caceido
£60m for Cucerella.

It's been said by many journo's close to Palace that Olise is the only one with release clause. I'm not sure though as though Eze was £60m with £8m added on to him and QPR.

It's also often been said he hasn't got a release clause but has a gentleman's agreement with Parish that he can leave this summer if a suitable bid comes in.

 

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View Eagle-Trucker's Profile Eagle-Trucker Flag in a house 26 Jun 24 10.54am Send a Private Message to Eagle-Trucker Add Eagle-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by YT

It's bound to be a Mercedes.

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 26 Jun 24 10.59am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by YT

It's bound to be a Mercedes.


Although all the players have to drive Audi cars as part of their contract and drive them to training.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 26 Jun 24 11.05am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Part of the problem with release clauses (at least for the selling club) is that a players market value can change fast, what seems like a reasonable release clause one day can seem ridiculously undervalued just a few weeks later.

Originally posted by NEILLO

My take is that both Olise and Eze would only sign new contracts provided a release clause was included. If the club had not done so then it's possible that both players ( Olise certainly ) would have already left the club.

Agree that the amount of the release clause seems heavily weighted in favour of the players in these cases. Olise is certainly worth far more than Palace are receiving for him.

In terms of Caceido and Cucerella, my understanding was that Caceido didn't have a fee attached to his release clause and Cucurella didn't have one at all. But it seems ridiculous that Brighton were able to extract those sums for those players.

 

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View Palace in the Blood's Profile Palace in the Blood Flag 26 Jun 24 11.16am Send a Private Message to Palace in the Blood Add Palace in the Blood as a friend

Of course only people very close to release clauses know all the details. We know that Olise was complicated and involved a percentage to reading and player. I think it also had a time limit which is it had to be completed by 30th June (this year's finance cut off point). The figure of 50m now in the press maybe what we get after others have been paid as I suspect clause made buying club pay them direct. I think Eze is a little different I don't think he has a release clause but a gentleman agreement for an acceptable offer ie we will not stand in his way. Again this may have time limits attached He also was rejected by a number of clubs so may be more inclined to stay where he is happy. Olise had a number of clubs as a youth player but moved by choice to further his career. I may being overly hopeful but I think Eze will give us another year

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 26 Jun 24 11.40am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

If Eze has a gentlemen's agreement with SP-something along the
lines of: "if we receive an acceptable offer for your services of course we wouldn't stand in your way"- Seems clear enough,
doesn't it ?

Who is to say what an acceptable offer looks like ?
Presumably SP / the club-

 

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