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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Jun 24 10.13am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It’s my eyes that are fully open to the realities of the modern world and our place in it. Brexit was all about trying to move back to a time and a situation that had long gone.

I had far too many conversations with Brexit supporters in the past not to know the paucity of their arguments. Many of those supporters are now, wisely, keeping very quiet.

Stupid statement.

Despite your centrist laissez faire like attitude to the decline of Western civilisation, trends don't only move in one direction.

The fate of Europe is not preordained. It will be determined by the decisions of men, all the time men exist.

The 'situation' will be at the mercy of people who are determined to shape it, not old men on their sofas in Cornwall who are happy to excuse away anything and everything because they adhere to some naive ideal.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 06 Jun 24 10.15am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Labour have been coached to add the words " on working people " after declaring no tax rises. Watch out for higher taxes on pensions and any other source of income not directly derived from employment.

Edited by HKOwen (06 Jun 2024 7.16am)

Taxes must rise whoever wins.

Which is why this election is not nearly as important as the next. Labour will be blamed for the tax rises by 2029 by when the last 14 years will be forgotten history.

The real question is who, and how, takes over then. The infighting on the right and the resistance by the centre right, for the soul of the Tory Party is the real political story that awaits us. Not the temporary occupation of Downing St by Starmer.

I expect my pension income to be severely impacted in the coming years. Which I believe is justified in our circumstances.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 06 Jun 24 10.21am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Stupid statement.

Despite your centrist laissez faire like attitude to the decline of Western civilisation, trends don't only move in one direction.

The fate of Europe is not preordained. It will be determined by the decisions of men, all the time men exist.

The 'situation' will be at the mercy of people who are determined to shape it, not old men on their sofas in Cornwall who are happy to excuse away anything and everything because they adhere to some naive ideal.

It won’t be decided by men, old or not.

It will be decided by people, half of whom are women. It will also be decided by circumstances and the need to respond to them.

Increasingly it will be decided by the young, and by their attitudes, which they will retain as they grow older and replace us.

The kind of thinking you espouse is the last hurrah of a fading generation.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Jun 24 10.29am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It won’t be decided by men, old or not.

It will be decided by people, half of whom are women. It will also be decided by circumstances and the need to respond to them.

Increasingly it will be decided by the young, and by their attitudes, which they will retain as they grow older and replace us.

The kind of thinking you espouse is the last hurrah of a fading generation.

Man is a species, not just a sex.

Naivety in the young is forgivable, but not in the old.

Your statement is an excuse for poor decision making by an old man who lives in an ideological fantasy.

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 06 Jun 24 11.02am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

1.4 bn per 1,000,000 workers. That could be anywhere between 14 and 20 bn per year.

OBR estimate is income tax will be 300bn at current levels in 2024/25

So the result would be a 5-7% reduction in income tax revenue

There are without doubt 14 to 20bn in savings to be made by stoping the waste and vanity spending.

Let's start with the Foreign Aid budget, soft power is a myth, the UK is a bit player on the world stage now and we should stop wasting money . UK tax to be spent on UK people first

Edited by HKOwen (06 Jun 2024 11.09am)

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 06 Jun 24 12.16pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

Zero income tax for the first 20k earned

I know who I'm voting for

I genuinely thought this was a spoof.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 06 Jun 24 12.47pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Man is a species, not just a sex.

Naivety in the young is forgivable, but not in the old.

Your statement is an excuse for poor decision making by an old man who lives in an ideological fantasy.

It is, but it isn't what was written.

Your statement is another excuse for personal insult rather than reasoned argument.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Jun 24 1.23pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It is, but it isn't what was written.

Your statement is another excuse for personal insult rather than reasoned argument.

If you find my responses to your garbage insulting, don't engage.

I find almost everything you post insulting. Insulting to the intelligence, and to the future of this country.

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 07 Jun 24 10.07am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

The Muslim Vote group issued 18 demands from Keir Starmer, no.15 "15. Ensure insurance quotes don't cost more for someone called 'Muhammad'.

Unlucky if you are Asif, Abdul, Ali, Imram, Yusuf and so on

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Jun 24 10.13am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

The Muslim Vote group issued 18 demands from Keir Starmer, no.15 "15. Ensure insurance quotes don't cost more for someone called 'Muhammad'.

Unlucky if you are Asif, Abdul, Ali, Imram, Yusuf and so on

When you insure someone called Mohammed it's obviously for two or three people.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 07 Jun 24 11.46am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

When you insure someone called Mohammed it's obviously for two or three people.

I used to do some aviation fleet insurance, for certain airlines like Garuda, the limit of liability for injury and death was specifically reduced on Haj flights to a nominal amount, the reason was any misfortune would be God's will.

Mohammed premiums were reduced for those flights

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Jun 24 11.50am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

I used to do some aviation fleet insurance, for certain airlines like Garuda, the limit of liability for injury and death was specifically reduced on Haj flights to a nominal amount, the reason was any misfortune would be God's will.

Mohammed premiums were reduced for those flights

Probably not that much risk of terrorism, funnily enough.

 


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