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Badger11 Beckenham 01 Feb 24 8.33am | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
If rules were in place that when one person comes over, they can't bring their family over then people wouldn't need to do it. If they didn't want to be apart from their families they wouldn't come. Loophole after loophole is what is being exploited. They all need to be shut down quickly. One quick immigration bill in line with Australia or New Zealand and there you go. The constant flow of third rate people entering the country can end. Exactly I would rather pay an employer taxpayer money to hire someone on disability.
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Hrolf The Ganger 01 Feb 24 1.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Everyone wants to stop the illegals. It’s doing it in a way which doesn’t conflict with our international treaty obligations and without risking the consequences of doing so which is the difficulty. Although it produces the biggest headlines illegal immigration is only a relatively small part of the whole though. Unless you want to stop families being together by stopping the family route, denying universities vital income from overseas students and our industries, especially the health and social care sector, from being staffed you simply cannot limit the numbers in the way you seek. It’s not possible. Denying any British citizen their right of abode on the basis of their heritage is a really bright idea. Good luck with that. Overseas students are getting places ahead of British students who can't afford the fees. That is not serving Britain. I don't care a hoot about people who should not be here in the first place bringing their families over. I care about the effect that current policy will have on mine in the future. More people require more industry and health care. A vicious circle. If you are a criminal, I don't care what your passport says.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 01 Feb 24 4.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Overseas students are getting places ahead of British students who can't afford the fees. That is not serving Britain. I don't care a hoot about people who should not be here in the first place bringing their families over. I care about the effect that current policy will have on mine in the future. More people require more industry and health care. A vicious circle. If you are a criminal, I don't care what your passport says. In Ireland, we now have the Orwellian language..... 'new irish' which seems to be bestowed upon every foreigner who walks from the Airplane to the terminal building. And if they look like the little green fellas in 'Mars Attacks' then you are a racist for pointing that out. The only overseas types who seem to struggle to be officially accepted in Ireland are Murphy's, Kelly's & Reilly's who speak with a South London accent. Edited by PalazioVecchio (01 Feb 2024 4.32pm)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Feb 24 8.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Overseas students are getting places ahead of British students who can't afford the fees. That is not serving Britain. I don't care a hoot about people who should not be here in the first place bringing their families over. I care about the effect that current policy will have on mine in the future. More people require more industry and health care. A vicious circle. If you are a criminal, I don't care what your passport says. Where’s the evidence for your assertion that British students are missing out because of overseas ones? I have not seen any. I am not talking about those who shouldn’t be here bringing their families over. I am talking about those who are entitled to be here. Including British citizens who have family members living elsewhere. Criminals deserve punishment. Those here illegally need to be deported. Those here legally not. However we fill vacancies other support services need to be provided. People become as British as you and me the moment they swear allegiance to the Crown. That’s the law. Campaign for change if you wish but right now we all, you included, must respect it.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 01 Feb 24 8.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
so a ( insert angry religion ) fella just off the banana boat who cannot speak English ? he is more British than a Christian/atheist Murphy living in Northern Ireland ? fair enough. And if the same fella lands at Dublin Airport he will suddenly be more irish than the UK dwelling Murphy in LondonDerry....the city with the six silent letters. i feel sorry for the Murphy, nobody wants him. Edited by PalazioVecchio (01 Feb 2024 8.27pm)
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 01 Feb 24 8.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Where’s the evidence for your assertion that British students are missing out because of overseas ones? I have not seen any. I am not talking about those who shouldn’t be here bringing their families over. I am talking about those who are entitled to be here. Including British citizens who have family members living elsewhere. Criminals deserve punishment. Those here illegally need to be deported. Those here legally not. However we fill vacancies other support services need to be provided. People become as British as you and me the moment they swear allegiance to the Crown. That’s the law. Campaign for change if you wish but right now we all, you included, must respect it. The highlighted text is the biggest crock. Why on earth would you even think to post that ? And you know I'm not talking about the legal point, so please don't argue over technicalities.
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Houston Eagle Houston 01 Feb 24 9.03pm | |
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Being a dual US-UK citizen I did pledge allegiance to the American flag! I take pride in where I live and my take seriously my civil responsibilities! That said I am British and will always be so just choose to live in foreign lands! My transition (no political puns please) happened many years ago but nowadays sharing similar ideals and fundamentals is optional and ultimately leads to unnecessary conflict!
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Feb 24 11.01pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
so a ( insert angry religion ) fella just off the banana boat who cannot speak English ? he is more British than a Christian/atheist Murphy living in Northern Ireland ? fair enough. And if the same fella lands at Dublin Airport he will suddenly be more irish than the UK dwelling Murphy in LondonDerry....the city with the six silent letters. i feel sorry for the Murphy, nobody wants him. Edited by PalazioVecchio (01 Feb 2024 8.27pm) No one can achieve British citizenship before 5 years residency, several stages of visa approval, verification of competency in English and passing the “Life in the UK test”. No banana boat arrivals need apply.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Feb 24 11.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
The highlighted text is the biggest crock. Why on earth would you even think to post that ? And you know I'm not talking about the legal point, so please don't argue over technicalities. It’s posted because it’s true. The legal position is the fundamental starting point to establishing the emotional one. How can any connection and pride be built unless the legal protection is established?
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PalazioVecchio south pole 01 Feb 24 11.14pm | |
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Climate Change Activists
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Badger11 Beckenham 16 May 24 7.39am | |
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I'm back on my hobby horse. I have been saying for years that Greta and Co target the wrong people. There are plenty of ways of making your point, not disrupting the public and doing some good. The above is an example. Coca Cola are a huge plastic polluter and don't give a damn. What we need are celebs and young people to start a boycott of their fizzy drinks until they will do something about it. I shan't hold my breath.
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grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 16 May 24 11.27am | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
If rules were in place that when one person comes over, they can't bring their family over then people wouldn't need to do it. If they didn't want to be apart from their families they wouldn't come. Loophole after loophole is what is being exploited. They all need to be shut down quickly. One quick immigration bill in line with Australia or New Zealand and there you go. The constant flow of third rate people entering the country can end.
If people can not come here legally with family no one will want to come. You need to go and re read New Zealand & Australia policies you are spreading misinformation let me guess you read it from tabloid newspaper. We have skill shortages for many reasons one of the main ones being people do not want to learn those skills and another is the salary/wage those jobs payout people see as beneath them. People on the dole do get offers of training but again I bet you have listened to media stories to much not understanding many people on "dole" are not untrained or skilled. If you want to give people who have disabilities a chance well for a start give them fair money the rates paid out are terrible and most of these people have no support in other areas either also are treated by the govt as if they are try to fraud them (The other thing a % of these people wont ever be able to work a proper job) Other people in here were going on about welfare costs the largest pay out is state pension and next is people who are working but getting top ups/child care. The likes of disability and job seekers is very small but these people are always the ones people like to go after same tactics govt use. Anyway climate change is a natural thing we have 0 evidence to show otherwise just same as many made up sciences epidemiology models to suit agendas. The planet will be here even if we are not.
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