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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Sep 17 12.57pm
Originally posted by becky Sadiq Khan has already banned advertising posters with women in underwear from the boards on London - claimed they were disrespectful to women......... He's got a point - I think - in a roundabout way - Whilst I don't have a problem with seeing attractive women in their underwear flogging s**t, there is proabably a reasonable argument to be made about over saturation of sexualised imagery in society that people are exposed to and that cannot be avoided. Although I am somewhat bias, in that I'd like to see advertising boards and the like removed entirely from public areas and spaces. Its forced exposure. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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jamiemartin721

Reading 13 Sep 17 12.57pm

Originally posted by becky

Sadiq Khan has already banned advertising posters with women in underwear from the boards on London - claimed they were disrespectful to women.........

He's got a point - I think - in a roundabout way - Whilst I don't have a problem with seeing attractive women in their underwear flogging s**t, there is proabably a reasonable argument to be made about over saturation of sexualised imagery in society that people are exposed to and that cannot be avoided.

Although I am somewhat bias, in that I'd like to see advertising boards and the like removed entirely from public areas and spaces. Its forced exposure.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Sep 17 1.07pm
Originally posted by DanH That was nothing to do with his religion. Absolutely nothing that occurs seems to have anything to do with his religion, whereas we are groaning under Catholic control of every aspect of our lives. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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hedgehog50

Croydon 13 Sep 17 1.07pm

Originally posted by DanH

That was nothing to do with his religion.

Absolutely nothing that occurs seems to have anything to do with his religion, whereas we are groaning under Catholic control of every aspect of our lives.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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DanH SW2 13 Sep 17 1.39pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Absolutely nothing that occurs seems to have anything to do with his religion, whereas we are groaning under Catholic control of every aspect of our lives. Are we? How?
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DanH

SW2 13 Sep 17 1.39pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Absolutely nothing that occurs seems to have anything to do with his religion, whereas we are groaning under Catholic control of every aspect of our lives.

Are we? How?

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hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Sep 17 1.44pm
Originally posted by DanH Are we? How? Ask Kermit, he has extensive notes written in green ink on the subject. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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hedgehog50

Croydon 13 Sep 17 1.44pm

Originally posted by DanH

Are we? How?

Ask Kermit, he has extensive notes written in green ink on the subject.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Stirlingsays 13 Sep 17 1.51pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 He's got a point - I think - in a roundabout way - Whilst I don't have a problem with seeing attractive women in their underwear flogging s**t, there is proabably a reasonable argument to be made about over saturation of sexualised imagery in society that people are exposed to and that cannot be avoided. Although I am somewhat bias, in that I'd like to see advertising boards and the like removed entirely from public areas and spaces. Its forced exposure. What? No he hasn't. As for 'Forced exposure'? How is any form of street advertising not 'forced exposure'? Hell, walking down the street is 'forced exposure'. What Khan is doing here is pushing social conservatism and I reject it. This is implicitly that sexually liberated women are less appropriate. That is not healthy. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2017 1.52pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Sep 17 1.51pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Although I am somewhat bias, in that I'd like to see advertising boards and the like removed entirely from public areas and spaces. Its forced exposure.

What? No he hasn't.

As for 'Forced exposure'? How is any form of street advertising not 'forced exposure'?
Hell, walking down the street is 'forced exposure'.

What Khan is doing here is pushing social conservatism and I reject it. This is implicitly that sexually liberated women are less appropriate. That is not healthy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2017 1.52pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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DanH SW2 13 Sep 17 2.09pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays What? No he hasn't. As for 'Forced exposure'? How is any form of street advertising not 'forced exposure'? Hell, walking down the street is 'forced exposure'. What Khan is doing here is pushing social conservatism and I reject it. This is implicitly that sexually liberated women are less appropriate. That is not healthy. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2017 1.52pm) It's nothing to do with that. Here's a link to the story at the time: [Link] This is about the tone of advert and the perceived 'body shaming' nature of it, linking in with eating disorders and pressure to confirm to social 'norms', Stop making out it's something it isn't.
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DanH

SW2 13 Sep 17 2.09pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What? No he hasn't.

As for 'Forced exposure'? How is any form of street advertising not 'forced exposure'?
Hell, walking down the street is 'forced exposure'.

What Khan is doing here is pushing social conservatism and I reject it. This is implicitly that sexually liberated women are less appropriate. That is not healthy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2017 1.52pm)

It's nothing to do with that. Here's a link to the story at the time: [Link]

This is about the tone of advert and the perceived 'body shaming' nature of it, linking in with eating disorders and pressure to confirm to social 'norms',

Stop making out it's something it isn't.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Sep 17 2.34pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays What? No he hasn't. As for 'Forced exposure'? How is any form of street advertising not 'forced exposure'? Hell, walking down the street is 'forced exposure'. What Khan is doing here is pushing social conservatism and I reject it. This is implicitly that sexually liberated women are less appropriate. That is not healthy. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2017 1.52pm) I'd be happy to see all forms of street advertising scrapped. I don't feel that every possible surface has to have an advertisement for some product, simply to generate more profit by pushing various goods, services, agendas etc. It'd be nice to be able to keep public spaces free from someone trying to flog stuff to us. That way it kind of makes it more 'your choice' if your exposed to advertising media, not the advertisers and marketing managers. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 13 Sep 17 2.34pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What? No he hasn't.

As for 'Forced exposure'? How is any form of street advertising not 'forced exposure'?
Hell, walking down the street is 'forced exposure'.

What Khan is doing here is pushing social conservatism and I reject it. This is implicitly that sexually liberated women are less appropriate. That is not healthy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2017 1.52pm)

I'd be happy to see all forms of street advertising scrapped. I don't feel that every possible surface has to have an advertisement for some product, simply to generate more profit by pushing various goods, services, agendas etc. It'd be nice to be able to keep public spaces free from someone trying to flog stuff to us. That way it kind of makes it more 'your choice' if your exposed to advertising media, not the advertisers and marketing managers.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

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Stirlingsays 13 Sep 17 2.44pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I'd be happy to see all forms of street advertising scrapped. I don't feel that every possible surface has to have an advertisement for some product, simply to generate more profit by pushing various goods, services, agendas etc. It'd be nice to be able to keep public spaces free from someone trying to flog stuff to us. That way it kind of makes it more 'your choice' if your exposed to advertising media, not the advertisers and marketing managers. Sure, street advertising can be annoying....I'm not sure there being none would be a very good idea however. Advertising of all types is annoying.... I'd need to be convinced of alternatives being better. Until technology solves the issue it's something I'll suffer. That's kind of not the point. If there is to be street advertising, which there is....then the denying of female sexuality and of a male's attraction to it is a form of social conservatism. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

13 Sep 17 2.44pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Sure, street advertising can be annoying....I'm not sure there being none would be a very good idea however. Advertising of all types is annoying.... I'd need to be convinced of alternatives being better. Until technology solves the issue it's something I'll suffer.

That's kind of not the point. If there is to be street advertising, which there is....then the denying of female sexuality and of a male's attraction to it is a form of social conservatism.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 13 Sep 17 2.47pm
Originally posted by DanH It's nothing to do with that. Here's a link to the story at the time: [Link] This is about the tone of advert and the perceived 'body shaming' nature of it, linking in with eating disorders and pressure to confirm to social 'norms', Stop making out it's something it isn't. These are not mutually exclusive. Stop pushing 'snowflake culture' onto me. I reject it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Sep 17 2.47pm

Originally posted by DanH

It's nothing to do with that. Here's a link to the story at the time: [Link]

This is about the tone of advert and the perceived 'body shaming' nature of it, linking in with eating disorders and pressure to confirm to social 'norms',

Stop making out it's something it isn't.

These are not mutually exclusive.

Stop pushing 'snowflake culture' onto me. I reject it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Sep 17 3.06pm
Originally posted by DanH It's nothing to do with that. Here's a link to the story at the time: [Link] This is about the tone of advert and the perceived 'body shaming' nature of it, linking in with eating disorders and pressure to confirm to social 'norms', Stop making out it's something it isn't. You cannot be serious. Advertising is designed to make things desirable. The day fat and ugly becomes desirable you will see it on posters everywhere. Don't hold your breath.
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13 Sep 17 3.06pm

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Originally posted by DanH

It's nothing to do with that. Here's a link to the story at the time: [Link]

This is about the tone of advert and the perceived 'body shaming' nature of it, linking in with eating disorders and pressure to confirm to social 'norms',

Stop making out it's something it isn't.

You cannot be serious. Advertising is designed to make things desirable. The day fat and ugly becomes desirable you will see it on posters everywhere. Don't hold your breath.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Sep 17 3.18pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You cannot be serious. Advertising is designed to make things desirable. The day fat and ugly becomes desirable you will see it on posters everywhere. Don't hold your breath. Orwell says: "Advertising is the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket." We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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hedgehog50

Croydon 13 Sep 17 3.18pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You cannot be serious. Advertising is designed to make things desirable. The day fat and ugly becomes desirable you will see it on posters everywhere. Don't hold your breath.

Orwell says: "Advertising is the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket."

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Stirlingsays 13 Sep 17 3.20pm
Originally posted by DanH It's nothing to do with that. Here's a link to the story at the time: [Link] This is about the tone of advert and the perceived 'body shaming' nature of it, linking in with eating disorders and pressure to confirm to social 'norms', Stop making out it's something it isn't. Also, the idea that restricting an individual's view of society as a form of treatment is not only ridiculous but it is harmful. It is lying to them about human nature. It is using the repression of others as a 'justifiable' tool. So if attractive slim women are to be banned in advertising then what about them walking down the street? Are they to be banned on TV? What about women wearing short skirts and tops? So how are people with eating disorders to be protected from that? All you are doing is restricting the liberties of others to fit in with a form of treatment that cannot work......Oh and in the mealtime supporting those who desire social conservatism: well done to you. Oh and by the way...if you find any of these women or men attractive...I don't know your preferences...then you yourself are apart of what you trying to restrict and dare I say it a hypocrite. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2017 3.23pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

13 Sep 17 3.20pm

Originally posted by DanH

It's nothing to do with that. Here's a link to the story at the time: [Link]

This is about the tone of advert and the perceived 'body shaming' nature of it, linking in with eating disorders and pressure to confirm to social 'norms',

Stop making out it's something it isn't.

Also, the idea that restricting an individual's view of society as a form of treatment is not only ridiculous but it is harmful. It is lying to them about human nature. It is using the repression of others as a 'justifiable' tool.

So if attractive slim women are to be banned in advertising then what about them walking down the street? Are they to be banned on TV? What about women wearing short skirts and tops?

So how are people with eating disorders to be protected from that?

All you are doing is restricting the liberties of others to fit in with a form of treatment that cannot work......Oh and in the mealtime supporting those who desire social conservatism: well done to you.

Oh and by the way...if you find any of these women or men attractive...I don't know your preferences...then you yourself are apart of what you trying to restrict and dare I say it a hypocrite.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2017 3.23pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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