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hedgehog50  Croydon 21 Jul 17 5.31pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Dunno, however epidemiological studies, such as those based in economic analysis, can demonstrate relationships of significance between two or more related phenomena. For example, there is no absolute proof that smoking causes lung cancer, however there is an incredibly strong correlation between certain lung cancers, smokers and certain carcinogens, that are present in cigs. So, yes, you can use an economics based analysis to show strong correlation between different factors that might appear at first to be unrelated. And yet the left tell us that immigration has nothing to do with pressure on public services, employment and wage levels, community tensions and the reintroduction of TB for that matter.
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  Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jul 17 5.35pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Dunno, however epidemiological studies, such as those based in economic analysis, can demonstrate relationships of significance between two or more related phenomena. For example, there is no absolute proof that smoking causes lung cancer, however there is an incredibly strong correlation between certain lung cancers, smokers and certain carcinogens, that are present in cigs. So, yes, you can use an economics based analysis to show strong correlation between different factors that might appear at first to be unrelated. Hang on. There is a big difference between showing a link between smoking and cancer and economic conditions and death. Even where a link could be shown, economic conditions affect a multitude of factors including, for example, a poorer more selective standard of medical care which I would argue could be caused by increased population.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 27 Jul 17 5.42pm |
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To think that they spent the election campaign telling us that universal free school meals were unaffordable and promising to provide free breakfasts instead – at a paltry 7p a serving. Just weeks later they have abandoned that pledge as they beat a full scale retreat from their own manifesto. How can anyone believe a word they now say?’ PM just tried to quietly bin it on the way out so she can start her holiday free from the election manifesto. 'breakfast means no breakfast'.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Jul 17 6.11pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
And yet the left tell us that immigration has nothing to do with pressure on public services, employment and wage levels, community tensions and the reintroduction of TB for that matter. Really, because all I hear about is how public services are massively underfunded and overcrowded.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Jul 17 6.17pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Hang on. There is a big difference between showing a link between smoking and cancer and economic conditions and death. Even where a link could be shown, economic conditions affect a multitude of factors including, for example, a poorer more selective standard of medical care which I would argue could be caused by increased population. Not really the evidence in both cases is correlational not causal - We just have come to accept that they're the same thing because the correlation between smoking and lung cancer is high - But its never actually been proven to cause the lung cancers explicitly because there are other factors involved and the same cancers can occur from pollution or other environmental factors. Of course we also see a correlation between a lot of the chemicals in tabbacco and cancer - which helps. Being poor won't kill you, it just reduces your life expectancy. Edited by jamiemartin721 (27 Jul 2017 6.18pm)
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| Stirlingsays 27 Jul 17 6.49pm |
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I think a bigger connection to being poor and lower life expectancy is related to the increased stress from worrying about money....roof over your head etc etc. Income insecurity and working your bollocks off to stand still takes years off of you. It's hard to show on a graph unless you look for it. It's not just the poor of course but over large populations that's the majority. Basically continued high stress over time will get you....But when the body is young and functioning well it can put up with a heap of abuse and recover. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jul 2017 6.53pm)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 31 Jul 17 11.02am |
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On holiday or as far away from the country as possible. Free of their attention-seeking recklessness for a whole week. Just those 6 wickets will complete my enjoyment..
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| Stirlingsays 31 Jul 17 11.26am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
On holiday or as far away from the country as possible. Free of their attention-seeking recklessness for a whole week. Just those 6 wickets will complete my enjoyment.. Almost feels wrong you supporting the England cricket team.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 31 Jul 17 12.27pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Almost feels wrong you supporting the England cricket team. Are you peddling that s*** old left wing = unpatriotic BS again...
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| steeleye20 Croydon 31 Jul 17 3.08pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Almost feels wrong you supporting the England cricket team. Thank you Joe Root not a man who runs from his committments......
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| Stirlingsays 31 Jul 17 5.50pm |
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Not left wing....but 'progressive' left wing yes....If you are patriotic and progressive you are either confused or lying. You can be left wing and patriotic. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2017 5.51pm)
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 31 Jul 17 6.08pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Not left wing....but 'progressive' left wing yes....If you are patriotic and progressive you are either confused or lying.
Wtf are you rambling on about? Are you conflating the words progressive and treasonous? Blimey.
Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune) |
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