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Rudi Hedman Caterham 03 Nov 16 11.58am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Surely its best not to trigger Article 50? Years of legal battles in UK and EU ahead. Businesses have no idea how to plan for the future nobody can deliver on the unknown. The EU rules and Regs are regarded by the other countries as irritating no more. The housing crisis and our mounting debts are more important IMO.
The Italian economic problems will kick start the next bomb to go off, and then there's the East European brain drain edging the EU to its likely collapse anyway.
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Kermit8 Hevon 03 Nov 16 12.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
If we remain then California will be one big step closer whilst everyone can enjoy cheaper holidays to get that one extra night more p1ssed Cheaper shopping to buy the essential crisps and sweets More take aways and take away shops More gambling and gambling shops with betting terminals. If we saw this through the short term inflation and mortgage rate rises we could mend a lot of the country's ills. Export more, more and better jobs. Less welfare, less debt spirals, less reliance on large companies and shareholder greed. But no, we'll go for the short term as we usually do. All could consumer based and going round in circles with the poorest forever poor. Thing is though you would need a radical social reformist Government with the mandate, the will and the clout to make things happen as in the late 1940's. The wet blanket brigade we have had in for decades will never counter such action now or in the future and especially those from the Tory side of the fence. The idea that leaving the EU will somehow forge a positive inclusive social revolution here in the UK is la-la land territory. This whole thing is not really about Europe if you dig even slightly. It has been our own successive governments who have let so many people and the country itself down.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 03 Nov 16 12.12pm | |
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Can't beat the system. Go with the flow. Go go with the flow.
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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Nov 16 12.15pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Surely its best not to trigger Article 50? Years of legal battles in UK and EU ahead. Businesses have no idea how to plan for the future nobody can deliver on the unknown. The EU rules and Regs are regarded by the other countries as irritating no more. The housing crisis and our mounting debts are more important IMO.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 03 Nov 16 12.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Thing is though you would need a radical social reformist Government with the mandate, the will and the clout to make things happen as in the late 1940's. The wet blanket brigade we have had in for decades will never counter such action now or in the future and especially those from the Tory side of the fence. The idea that leaving the EU will somehow forge a positive inclusive social revolution here in the UK is la-la land territory. This whole thing is not really about Europe if you dig even slightly. It has been our own successive governments who have let so many people and the country itself down. Devalued currency is a good place to start, rather than deluding ourselves we're all rich and always will be when the truth is the country is gradually becoming financially poorer.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Nov 16 12.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
They can, if they can rule something either unconstitutional or undemocratic... but yes, for the most part.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Nov 16 12.28pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Surely its best not to trigger Article 50? Years of legal battles in UK and EU ahead. Businesses have no idea how to plan for the future nobody can deliver on the unknown. The EU rules and Regs are regarded by the other countries as irritating no more. The housing crisis and our mounting debts are more important IMO.
Best doesn't come into democracy. In fact democracy exists because the 'best systems' are inherently flawed and untrustworthy... I think that Parliament will vote to support an exit but the argument will be more about 'establishing' an exit, rather than just a yes/no.
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steeleye20 Croydon 03 Nov 16 2.14pm | |
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After the legal decision this morning:- 'Poppy means Brexit' or in reverse 'Brexit means Poppy'
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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 03 Nov 16 3.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
I thought someone said all the Brexit voters were over 60. Unless there is an intermission with tea and scones I can't see it gathering enough momentum. The above is a flippant comment in case any of you weren't aware of my reputation. if they can drag it out for a few more years most of them will be dead anyway so there won't be anyone to protest against a Brexit u-turn
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steeleye20 Croydon 03 Nov 16 3.27pm | |
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Yes I have upped it to 10 years from 7 after this morning and I will quite probably die without ever finding out what brexit means........ I whistle a happy tune ........
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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Nov 16 4.36pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
They can, if they can rule something either unconstitutional or undemocratic... but yes, for the most part. Oh Stop it. You know it's a bloody disgraceful and cynical attempt to overturn a democratic vote. It will ultimately fail.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Nov 16 4.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Oh Stop it. You know it's a bloody disgraceful and cynical attempt to overturn a democratic vote. It will ultimately fail. I might be wrong, but didn't the woman who asked for the case to be taken to high court a 'brexiter' anyway?
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