The whole thing is becoming so corrupt from different parties and angles we need to get back to normal life apart from the vulnerable.

COYP

I must admit I was taken aback by those beach scene in Southend. But then again at many other beaches and parks people were far more sensible. Broadly I would wager that people act in line with perceived risk. That's good in one way, but there is of course a big lag from infection to hospital admission to death, and so people won't really be able to appropriately judge risk levels anyway. Anything we see is always about 15-20 days behind the reality. If I was 70 plus I'd definitely keep a low profile in the coming months.

So would I keep a low profile, for a while.

More was made of those beach photos in Southend and Bournemouth. Taken at a higher angle they weren’t close to each other. And for a week the reported new cases have been extremely low. There is of course the argument that more people will then come, but those beaches are very long and I doubt anyone has seen a crowded English beach resort where you can’t avoid people for decades.

Unfortunately the vulnerable can’t enjoy any of this if they want to minimise their risk but that’s how it is. Some will argue that people should stay in so it’ll be safe for the vulnerable sooner. But that has flaws. It’ll mean no immunity built up in the community and it isn’t just about lefties pointing the finger at people sunbathing unnecessarily. There’s businesses that rely on seasonal trade, if they can adapt to no seating or sitting indoors.

COYP

Yes, to an extent it is what it is. For the sake of both health and the economy, it's a good thing that those in the most vulnerable groups are most often not economically active. That at least provides an option to many of the most vulnerable that most others do not have.

I appreciate the sentiment behind the government's we're all in this together message, but it obscures the reality that people should make decisions for themselves that are relative to their risk. Not doing so creates as many, if not more, problems than it solves.

It’ll be worse in America, just like the ‘credit crunch’ and people living in caravans. The U.K. will be like the early ‘80s again, only the music will be shyte and the emptying football grounds will be all seated.

Quite sobering that things can get so sh1t unexpectedly. Be grateful your own life is good and it hasn’t been ruined by the fvckers unwilling to step out out of this earlier because it’ll look like they’ve made an error or two. The error I’m thinking of is the extended furlough to end of October with some tapering in July and August.

COYP

Should have to resign. Especially after Neil Ferguson. But he won’t. And people won’t really care. Nothing sticks to this lot somehow, it’s like people take them being despicable w*nkers as part of the parcel.