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Sportyteacher London 10 Jun 17 9.37am
Cambridgeshire Conservative MP, Heidi Allen gave an refreshingly honest assessment of Election result yesterday: [Link]
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Sportyteacher

London 10 Jun 17 9.37am

Cambridgeshire Conservative MP, Heidi Allen gave an refreshingly honest assessment of Election result yesterday:

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Sportyteacher London 10 Jun 17 9.42am
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Cambridgeshire Conservative MP, Heidi Allen gave an refreshingly honest assessment of Election result yesterday: [Link] Make that 'a' ...slip of the keyboard. Don't want any complaints about standard of teaching these days. Mind you, PE teachers are famous for making the worst smelling pistakes...
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Sportyteacher

London 10 Jun 17 9.42am

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Cambridgeshire Conservative MP, Heidi Allen gave an refreshingly honest assessment of Election result yesterday:

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Make that 'a' ...slip of the keyboard. Don't want any complaints about standard of teaching these days. Mind you, PE teachers are famous for making the worst smelling pistakes...

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jun 17 9.43am
Originally posted by europalace Some of the 'older' posters on here are clearly jealous of other people's youth and the opportunities they have today, simple as that. They make up the selfish group who pushed through the brexit referendum not giving a damn about the prospects of the younger generations. A truly sad situation which I've never seen in the many other European countries I've lived in, where they focus on supporting their young people because they realise they are the future. Edited by europalace (10 Jun 2017 9.32am) Total and utter hogwash about all this "Jealousy" bit. I am 65 this year (So getting old !), I talk to a lot of people roughly my age and older and I have never sensed this at all.We have children, grand-children and to suggest that we don't give a whit about their prospects etc is risible and ridiculous.Incidently my daugher is nearly 28 so I consider her young !
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jun 17 9.43am

Originally posted by europalace

Some of the 'older' posters on here are clearly jealous of other people's youth and the opportunities they have today, simple as that. They make up the selfish group who pushed through the brexit referendum not giving a damn about the prospects of the younger generations. A truly sad situation which I've never seen in the many other European countries I've lived in, where they focus on supporting their young people because they realise they are the future.

Edited by europalace (10 Jun 2017 9.32am)

Total and utter hogwash about all this "Jealousy" bit.

I am 65 this year (So getting old !), I talk to a lot of people roughly my age and older and I have never sensed this at all.We have children, grand-children and to suggest that we don't give a whit about their prospects etc is risible and ridiculous.Incidently my daugher is nearly 28 so I consider her young !

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steeleye20 Croydon 10 Jun 17 9.43am
Originally posted by europalace Some of the 'older' posters on here are clearly jealous of other people's youth and the opportunities they have today, simple as that. They make up the selfish group who pushed through the brexit referendum not giving a damn about the prospects of the younger generations. A truly sad situation which I've never seen in the many other European countries I've lived in, where they focus on supporting their young people because they realise they are the future. Edited by europalace (10 Jun 2017 9.32am) Well we are not all like they are but the older generation is a big disappointment quite happy with the young having no future. Selfish materialistic often bigoted hope the tide has turned on them.
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steeleye20

Croydon 10 Jun 17 9.43am

Originally posted by europalace

Edited by europalace (10 Jun 2017 9.32am)

Well we are not all like they are but the older generation is a big disappointment quite happy with the young having no future.

Selfish materialistic often bigoted hope the tide has turned on them.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jun 17 9.46am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Well we are not all like they are but the older generation is a big disappointment quite happy with the young having no future. Selfish materialistic often bigoted hope the tide has turned on them. This is total and utter hogwash, the type one reads in the 'Guardian' and other such publications. We of the 'Older generation' have offspring who aspire to buy their property, have bought their properties, are in University etc etc.We understand the challenges they face and try to help them, financially or otherwise.We do care about them and their prospects. Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 9.50am)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jun 17 9.46am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Well we are not all like they are but the older generation is a big disappointment quite happy with the young having no future.

Selfish materialistic often bigoted hope the tide has turned on them.

This is total and utter hogwash, the type one reads in the 'Guardian' and other such publications.

We of the 'Older generation' have offspring who aspire to buy their property, have bought their properties, are in University etc etc.We understand the challenges they face and try to help them, financially or otherwise.We do care about them and their prospects.

Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 9.50am)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Jun 17 10.07am
Originally posted by europalace Some of the 'older' posters on here are clearly jealous of other people's youth and the opportunities they have today, simple as that. They make up the selfish group who pushed through the brexit referendum not giving a damn about the prospects of the younger generations. A truly sad situation which I've never seen in the many other European countries I've lived in, where they focus on supporting their young people because they realise they are the future. Edited by europalace (10 Jun 2017 9.32am) My God you talk some utter cr&p. Old people are jealous of young people so vote leave and for austerity which they think won't burden them and the current teenagers and juniors with even more debt. You need a rest. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 10 Jun 17 10.07am

Originally posted by europalace

Edited by europalace (10 Jun 2017 9.32am)

My God you talk some utter cr&p.

Old people are jealous of young people so vote leave and for austerity which they think won't burden them and the current teenagers and juniors with even more debt.

You need a rest.

COYP

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jun 17 10.08am
Originally posted by nickgusset It's almost tragic to watch May's demise from strong and stable to deluded power clingeronerer. The way she spoke at no.10 as though as it was business as usual. House of Cards pales in comparison. Thing is I worry that no good will come of it all. What was the alternative in the circumstances ? Suppose you feel that Labour (Who cannot realistically engineer a majority) should have walked in to 'No 10' on the back of nearly 60 seats behind the Conservatives in the election. The pundits ridiculed this scenario - bloody cheeky and arrogant Labour even suggesting it. As for talking outside 'No 10' this was not the time to comment on the election.This was the time to inform the electorate about what was going to happen next which of course was subject to speculation. Anyway, enough of this political chat from me for now as I have things to do and places to go.Drove my wife mad last night in my 'Local' when people came up to me to chat about the election and she told me to "Shut up" as she was "Politicsed out" !!!!! Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 10.10am)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jun 17 10.08am

Originally posted by nickgusset

It's almost tragic to watch May's demise from strong and stable to deluded power clingeronerer.
The way she spoke at no.10 as though as it was business as usual.

House of Cards pales in comparison.

Thing is I worry that no good will come of it all.

What was the alternative in the circumstances ? Suppose you feel that Labour (Who cannot realistically engineer a majority) should have walked in to 'No 10' on the back of nearly 60 seats behind the Conservatives in the election. The pundits ridiculed this scenario - bloody cheeky and arrogant Labour even suggesting it.

As for talking outside 'No 10' this was not the time to comment on the election.This was the time to inform the electorate about what was going to happen next which of course was subject to speculation.

Anyway, enough of this political chat from me for now as I have things to do and places to go.Drove my wife mad last night in my 'Local' when people came up to me to chat about the election and she told me to "Shut up" as she was "Politicsed out" !!!!!

Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 10.10am)

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hedgehog50 Croydon 10 Jun 17 10.26am
Some of May's problems were to first say she would not call an election when she became Tory leader, then call one for the obvious purpose of simply increasing her majority - not in the country's interests but in hers. The electorate do not like having their votes taken for granted and do not like needless elections; remember Heath with "who runs the country?" - believe it or not, I was canvassing for the Labour party during that election and the usual response was "well Heath obviously doesn't, he is supposed to be Prime Minister, why isn't he doing his job". Having called a pointless election, May then presented about two policies - a vote on bringing back fox hunting, and taking into account peoples' homes when accessing liability for home care. Two vote winners there! She then ducked public debates and presumably banned her senior colleagues from speaking as we saw little of them. The surprise really is that she actually won - despite the opposition being a bunch of Trotskyites. Edited by hedgehog50 (10 Jun 2017 10.27am) We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 10 Jun 17 10.26am

Some of May's problems were to first say she would not call an election when she became Tory leader, then call one for the obvious purpose of simply increasing her majority - not in the country's interests but in hers. The electorate do not like having their votes taken for granted and do not like needless elections; remember Heath with "who runs the country?" - believe it or not, I was canvassing for the Labour party during that election and the usual response was "well Heath obviously doesn't, he is supposed to be Prime Minister, why isn't he doing his job".
Having called a pointless election, May then presented about two policies - a vote on bringing back fox hunting, and taking into account peoples' homes when accessing liability for home care. Two vote winners there!
She then ducked public debates and presumably banned her senior colleagues from speaking as we saw little of them.
The surprise really is that she actually won - despite the opposition being a bunch of Trotskyites.

Edited by hedgehog50 (10 Jun 2017 10.27am)

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 10 Jun 17 10.39am
Originally posted by Mstrobez It's ironic that so many on here call the young brainwashed and deluded yet seem to find it hard to conceive that continued politics of austerity and tax cuts for the wealthy will inevitably lead to the emergence of Corbyn type figures who can end up seriously threatening the status quo. Corbyn stopping Mays majority is a direct result of the Tories indifference over the past 7 years. But hey maybe you're all too blind and naive to see that. Yes. 55% voted for anti austerity parties. The will of the people.
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Originally posted by Mstrobez

It's ironic that so many on here call the young brainwashed and deluded yet seem to find it hard to conceive that continued politics of austerity and tax cuts for the wealthy will inevitably lead to the emergence of Corbyn type figures who can end up seriously threatening the status quo. Corbyn stopping Mays majority is a direct result of the Tories indifference over the past 7 years. But hey maybe you're all too blind and naive to see that.

Yes. 55% voted for anti austerity parties. The will of the people.

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steeleye20 Croydon 10 Jun 17 10.40am
Originally posted by Willo This is total and utter hogwash, the type one reads in the 'Guardian' and other such publications. We of the 'Older generation' have offspring who aspire to buy their property, have bought their properties, are in University etc etc.We understand the challenges they face and try to help them, financially or otherwise.We do care about them and their prospects. You are just the type we are discussing. Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 9.50am)
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steeleye20

Croydon 10 Jun 17 10.40am

Originally posted by Willo

This is total and utter hogwash, the type one reads in the 'Guardian' and other such publications.

You are just the type we are discussing.

Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 9.50am)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 17 10.41am
Originally posted by Willo What was the alternative in the circumstances ? Suppose you feel that Labour (Who cannot realistically engineer a majority) should have walked in to 'No 10' on the back of nearly 60 seats behind the Conservatives in the election. The pundits ridiculed this scenario - bloody cheeky and arrogant Labour even suggesting it. As for talking outside 'No 10' this was not the time to comment on the election.This was the time to inform the electorate about what was going to happen next which of course was subject to speculation. Anyway, enough of this political chat from me for now as I have things to do and places to go.Drove my wife mad last night in my 'Local' when people came up to me to chat about the election and she told me to "Shut up" as she was "Politicsed out" !!!!! Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 10.10am) She's had enough! And we're only at the end of the beginning of this story.
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 17 10.41am

Originally posted by Willo

Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 10.10am)

She's had enough! And we're only at the end of the beginning of this story.

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 10 Jun 17 10.46am
Originally posted by Willo "Austerity" as you put it to try and reduce the defecit and get finances under control in order to have a strong economy.I would have understood this even if it was Labour who was going down this path but alas they just believe in tax and SPEND,SPEND,SPEND with precious little thought for whether the increased expenditure is being spent wisely. As for "Tax cuts for the rich" this does make me laugh when the rich pay the higher rate and as such already contribute a great deal to the coffers. Besides under the Conservatives the amount one can earn before paying tax has been going up and up, now going up to £12,500 and this of course helps ordinary families on lower incomes. As for "Tory indifference over 10 years", let's not forget that there was a coalition Government between 2010 and 2015 where compromises have to be made with one's coalition partners.And such "Indifference" has led to record numbers in employment. At the end of the day, the election was NOT a victory for Labour as is being portrayed - they fell short by nearly 60 seats and there is still a Conservative PM in 'No 10'. Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 9.39am) You clearly have no understanding of depression economics and the economics of austerity. Also increasing the personal allowance was a Lib Dem flagship policy.
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CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 10 Jun 17 10.46am

Originally posted by Willo

"Austerity" as you put it to try and reduce the defecit and get finances under control in order to have a strong economy.I would have understood this even if it was Labour who was going down this path but alas they just believe in tax and SPEND,SPEND,SPEND with precious little thought for whether the increased expenditure is being spent wisely.

As for "Tax cuts for the rich" this does make me laugh when the rich pay the higher rate and as such already contribute a great deal to the coffers. Besides under the Conservatives the amount one can earn before paying tax has been going up and up, now going up to £12,500 and this of course helps ordinary families on lower incomes.

As for "Tory indifference over 10 years", let's not forget that there was a coalition Government between 2010 and 2015 where compromises have to be made with one's coalition partners.And such "Indifference" has led to record numbers in employment.

At the end of the day, the election was NOT a victory for Labour as is being portrayed - they fell short by nearly 60 seats and there is still a Conservative PM in 'No 10'.

Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 9.39am)

You clearly have no understanding of depression economics and the economics of austerity.

Also increasing the personal allowance was a Lib Dem flagship policy.

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