Let's hope for that outcome.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Er

Rather obviously not?

Not sure what your point is, other than the inability to contribute in a balanced way because you’ve picked a side.

Both sides have committed atrocities of varying scales in recent and historical times throughout the lengthy run of this conflict.

To simply dismiss that and frame Israel as good and Palestinians as evil is absolutely ridiculous. And demonstrably untrue.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (18 Oct 2023 6.47pm)

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

One of my formative memories growing up was coming home early from high school on 9/11 (due to early dismissal) and watching the Palestinians on the West Bank celebrate the murder of 2300 Americans on the news channels with my father. I didn't know much about the world back then other than NFL stats and players, but I saw 10-15 year old kids celebrating like they had won the world cup....over the murder of innocents.

There are people and cultures who revel in war crimes—and who do not hide these crimes or their celebration of them but, rather, proudly broadcast their savagery for all the world to see. Islamist death cults such as Hamas and ISIS are modern examples of this.

Conversely, there are people and cultures who have given us the concept of a war crime as a sacred prohibition—and as a safeguard in the ongoing project of maintaining the moral progress of civilization.

One point to concede, and this will absorb all the nuance and nonsense that is now percolating in the brains of annoying leftists: It is, of course, true that we in the West have been on the wrong side of these dichotomies in the past. Most Western armies, including Israel’s, have at one time or another been guilty of war crimes. And if you go back far enough, all of human conflict was just a litany of war crimes. And you don’t have to go back all that far, in fact, to find large pockets of Western culture that were morally indistinguishable from what we now see in much of the Muslim world. If you have any doubt about this, study the photos of white mobs celebrating the lynching's that occurred in the American South in the first half of the 20th century: where seemingly whole towns—thousands of men, women and children—turned out as though for a carnival to watch some young man or woman be tortured to death and then strung up on a tree or lamppost for all to see.

Seeing the pictures of these people in their Sunday best, having arranged themselves for a postcard photo under a dangling, and lacerated, and often partially cremated person, is one thing, but realize that these genteel people—who considered themselves good Christians—often took souvenirs of the body home to show their friends—teeth, ears, fingers, knee caps, internal organs—and sometimes displayed them in their places of business.

There is a moral difference between a faction that uses children and civilians as human shields and a faction that notifies areas and facilities before bombing them. And if you can't see that stark difference in civilizational progress between Israel and her enemies than you have some reflection to engage in.

Edited by Sheks Crows Eye (18 Oct 2023 7.02pm)

There is a picture going around of the crater and damage it caused.
Well I’ve seen bigger fish ponds and worse fires from a chip pan fire.
Maybe I was correct as a jdam would leave a crater the size of a bus garage and a fire like 1666.
Humble pie incoming !!!!!!!!!

People talk about the hospital explosion story being a loss for the media, and it certainly is, but what a win for prediction markets.

Pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli accounts both made plausible sounding arguments. (Though anyone with brain cells should have noted this was likely Hamas propaganda)

With the prediction markets only one side was willing to risk their own money, and they were right.

Leftists hate betting and prediction markets, like all markets. Even though they provide truth and knowledge, because they involve money they must be evil. Good way also for them to never have to be proven wrong about anything, which leftists always are.

The most powerful man in the world.

And he can't even get fuel supplies to keep hospitals going.