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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Nov 21 6.27pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Not everyone finds lying as easy as you appear to think. Nothing to do with me! This was an OED definition. You had better write to them. My opinion is that what was meant was that racism springs from inner beliefs and not necessarily expressions of those beliefs. So lying isn't involved at all. It was a simple description of a complex issue. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 18 Nov 21 6.27pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Not everyone finds lying as easy as you appear to think.

Nothing to do with me! This was an OED definition. You had better write to them.

My opinion is that what was meant was that racism springs from inner beliefs and not necessarily expressions of those beliefs. So lying isn't involved at all.

It was a simple description of a complex issue.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Nov 21 6.30pm
Originally posted by becky Doing the rounds on social media, I'll just leave this here...... The humiliation, making those poor men wear those shirts. Look at how humiliated they look.
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18 Nov 21 6.30pm

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Originally posted by becky

Doing the rounds on social media, I'll just leave this here......

The humiliation, making those poor men wear those shirts. Look at how humiliated they look.

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Stirlingsays 18 Nov 21 6.30pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Yet another ad hominem. See rules 4 and 7. If they introduced a few rules about my opinion of you, then you would have been long gone. I won't, though, mention them. I try to follow the rules. Give it a try. It doesn't hurt. They are intended to produce decency and a mutually respectful environment. Waffle alert. Tell you what, start up a new Palace forum....I can guarantee you'd have a new peaceful experience, free from me. Maybe all your Trump friends would join you and you could continue educating them. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Nov 21 6.30pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Yet another ad hominem. See rules 4 and 7.

If they introduced a few rules about my opinion of you, then you would have been long gone. I won't, though, mention them. I try to follow the rules.

Give it a try. It doesn't hurt. They are intended to produce decency and a mutually respectful environment.

Waffle alert.

Tell you what, start up a new Palace forum....I can guarantee you'd have a new peaceful experience, free from me. Maybe all your Trump friends would join you and you could continue educating them.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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dreamwaverider London 18 Nov 21 6.30pm
Rafiq is in a very sticky position tonight. What a hypocrite. So much egg on his face. All getting very messy.
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Rafiq is in a very sticky position tonight.
What a hypocrite.
So much egg on his face.
All getting very messy.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Nov 21 6.40pm
Originally posted by dreamwaverider Rafiq is in a very sticky position tonight. What a hypocrite. So much egg on his face. All getting very messy. Is the egg Halal or Kosher? I'm losing track. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Nov 21 6.40pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Rafiq is in a very sticky position tonight.
What a hypocrite.
So much egg on his face.
All getting very messy.

Is the egg Halal or Kosher? I'm losing track.

Red and Blue Army!

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Stirlingsays 18 Nov 21 6.40pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The humiliation, making those poor men wear those shirts. Look at how humiliated they look. If it's real it's more amusement.....no doubt banter....but apparently only banter ok for his own group. It appears that this guy's presentation of himself has annoyed some people who are in the know who obviously want a rebalancing of the scales of justice so he's been investigated just as deeply. Considering that this guy has spent his time trying to destroy careers....with all the cheering on of the usual suspects....then the reality of his own ethnocentrism seems appropriate. To me, at reasonable levels that's no crime....but the sheer self absorbed hypocrisy certainly should be seen for what it is. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Nov 2021 7.03pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Nov 21 6.40pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The humiliation, making those poor men wear those shirts. Look at how humiliated they look.

If it's real it's more amusement.....no doubt banter....but apparently only banter ok for his own group.

It appears that this guy's presentation of himself has annoyed some people who are in the know who obviously want a rebalancing of the scales of justice so he's been investigated just as deeply.

Considering that this guy has spent his time trying to destroy careers....with all the cheering on of the usual suspects....then the reality of his own ethnocentrism seems appropriate.

To me, at reasonable levels that's no crime....but the sheer self absorbed hypocrisy certainly should be seen for what it is.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Nov 2021 7.03pm)

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Nov 21 6.45pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays If it's real it's more amusement.....no doubt banter....but apparently only banter ok for his own group. It appears that this guy's presentation of himself has annoyed some people who are in the know who obviously want a rebalancing of the scales of justice so he's been investigated just as deeply. Considering that this guy has spent him time trying to destroy careers....with all the cheering on of the usual suspects....then the reality of his own ethnocentrism seems appropriate. To me, at reasonable levels that's no crime....but the sheer self absorbed hypocrisy certainly should be seen for what it is. I was thinking it was probably photoshopped but not sure, just a guess really. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Nov 21 6.45pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If it's real it's more amusement.....no doubt banter....but apparently only banter ok for his own group.

It appears that this guy's presentation of himself has annoyed some people who are in the know who obviously want a rebalancing of the scales of justice so he's been investigated just as deeply.

Considering that this guy has spent him time trying to destroy careers....with all the cheering on of the usual suspects....then the reality of his own ethnocentrism seems appropriate.

To me, at reasonable levels that's no crime....but the sheer self absorbed hypocrisy certainly should be seen for what it is.

I was thinking it was probably photoshopped but not sure, just a guess really.

Red and Blue Army!

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Nov 21 6.46pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays If it's real it's more amusement.....no doubt banter....but apparently only banter ok for his own group. It appears that this guy's presentation of himself has annoyed some people who are in the know who obviously want a rebalancing of the scales of justice so he's been investigated just as deeply. Considering that this guy has spent him time trying to destroy careers....with all the cheering on of the usual suspects....then the reality of his own ethnocentrism seems appropriate. To me, at reasonable levels that's no crime....but the sheer self absorbed hypocrisy certainly should be seen for what it is. Indeed. This just emphasis what the wise already know. Let he without sin cast the first stone and all that stuff... It will be highly amusing to hear the excuses for this. No doubt the usuals will be desperately thinking of a way to save face over dinner.
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18 Nov 21 6.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If it's real it's more amusement.....no doubt banter....but apparently only banter ok for his own group.

It appears that this guy's presentation of himself has annoyed some people who are in the know who obviously want a rebalancing of the scales of justice so he's been investigated just as deeply.

Considering that this guy has spent him time trying to destroy careers....with all the cheering on of the usual suspects....then the reality of his own ethnocentrism seems appropriate.

To me, at reasonable levels that's no crime....but the sheer self absorbed hypocrisy certainly should be seen for what it is.

Indeed. This just emphasis what the wise already know.

Let he without sin cast the first stone and all that stuff...

It will be highly amusing to hear the excuses for this. No doubt the usuals will be desperately thinking of a way to save face over dinner.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 18 Nov 21 6.52pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Certainly. I can't help but think that if this was all true that someone would have said something. I mean I'm on the dissentient right and I personally wouldn't have put up with that around me....Aside from being out of order it's incredibly unprofessional. I suspect things are being turned up to eleven and that plenty suspect it but are scared to say it. As if by magic - I’d read a few days ago that his character wasn’t squeaky clean and there we have it. Just as bad. Again, though, that doesn’t make his alleged abuse any worse. It does call into question his character quite rightly so the burden of proof will swing more into him, however I’d be amazed if this was all made up as some are suggesting. Also it’s pretty common for the bullied to become the bullies. Maybe this happened here? Pure behavioural speculation of course. [Link] And on the front page of the BBC for all those of article hiding / bashing persuasion Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 18 Nov 21 6.52pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Certainly.

I can't help but think that if this was all true that someone would have said something. I mean I'm on the dissentient right and I personally wouldn't have put up with that around me....Aside from being out of order it's incredibly unprofessional.

I suspect things are being turned up to eleven and that plenty suspect it but are scared to say it.

As if by magic - I’d read a few days ago that his character wasn’t squeaky clean and there we have it. Just as bad. Again, though, that doesn’t make his alleged abuse any worse. It does call into question his character quite rightly so the burden of proof will swing more into him, however I’d be amazed if this was all made up as some are suggesting. Also it’s pretty common for the bullied to become the bullies. Maybe this happened here? Pure behavioural speculation of course.

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And on the front page of the BBC for all those of article hiding / bashing persuasion

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Stirlingsays 18 Nov 21 6.55pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC As if by magic - I’d read a few days ago that his character wasn’t squeaky clean and there we have it. Just as bad. Again, though, that doesn’t make his alleged abuse any worse. It does call into question his character quite rightly so the burden of proof will swing more into him, however I’d be amazed if this was all made up as some are suggesting. Also it’s pretty common for the bullied to become the bullies. Maybe this happened here? Pure behavioural speculation of course. [Link] And on the front page of the BBC for all those of article hiding / bashing persuasion Not when it comes to the chance of mentioning anti semitism. I suspect that they would figuratively throw their own grandmothers under the bus for that. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Nov 2021 7.01pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Nov 21 6.55pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

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And on the front page of the BBC for all those of article hiding / bashing persuasion

Not when it comes to the chance of mentioning anti semitism.

I suspect that they would figuratively throw their own grandmothers under the bus for that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Nov 2021 7.01pm)

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 18 Nov 21 6.56pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Indeed. This just emphasis what the wise already know. Let he without sin cast the first stone and all that stuff... It will be highly amusing to hear the excuses for this. No doubt the usuals will be desperately thinking of a way to save face over dinner. Zero excuse. What it doesn’t do, though, is make what was allegedly done to him any less important. It certainly makes his character and claims vulnerable to further scrutiny (this was already being talked about on the fringes of the media a couple of days ago) and that is also a good thing. It’s certainly brought some much needed balance to the whole debacle Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 18 Nov 21 6.56pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Indeed. This just emphasis what the wise already know.

Let he without sin cast the first stone and all that stuff...

It will be highly amusing to hear the excuses for this. No doubt the usuals will be desperately thinking of a way to save face over dinner.

Zero excuse. What it doesn’t do, though, is make what was allegedly done to him any less important.

It certainly makes his character and claims vulnerable to further scrutiny (this was already being talked about on the fringes of the media a couple of days ago) and that is also a good thing. It’s certainly brought some much needed balance to the whole debacle

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Nov 21 7.11pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Zero excuse. What it doesn’t do, though, is make what was allegedly done to him any less important. It certainly makes his character and claims vulnerable to further scrutiny (this was already being talked about on the fringes of the media a couple of days ago) and that is also a good thing. It’s certainly brought some much needed balance to the whole debacle Bingo. What it does is strongly suggest that he was happy to participate in a culture of race/religious abuse and, most importantly, is a massive hypocrite. What a huge surprise.
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Hrolf The Ganger

18 Nov 21 7.11pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Zero excuse. What it doesn’t do, though, is make what was allegedly done to him any less important.

It certainly makes his character and claims vulnerable to further scrutiny (this was already being talked about on the fringes of the media a couple of days ago) and that is also a good thing. It’s certainly brought some much needed balance to the whole debacle

Bingo.

What it does is strongly suggest that he was happy to participate in a culture of race/religious abuse and, most importantly, is a massive hypocrite.

What a huge surprise.

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