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Eaglehamster Storrington 23 Oct 20 4.36pm
Originally posted by Jacey Believe your assumptions are correct as Roy, in all probability,has a simple brief to keep us in the PL by whatever means he has at his disposal. Will be very ugly,negative and shows the lack of any ambition to go forward as a club until wealthy buyers are found and are willing to keep SP at the helm. How utterly depressing. I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.
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Storrington 23 Oct 20 4.36pm

Originally posted by Jacey

Believe your assumptions are correct as Roy, in all
probability,has a simple brief to keep us in the PL by whatever means he has at his disposal.
Will be very ugly,negative and shows the lack of any ambition to go forward as a club until wealthy buyers are found and are willing to keep SP at the helm.

How utterly depressing.

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 23 Oct 20 5.00pm
I am not convinced Steve Parish would tolerate a full season of the kind of football we saw in the last 2 games. Defensive solidity is to be praised. Zero plan to attack i think will draw the chairman's ire. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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I am not convinced Steve Parish would tolerate a full season of the kind of football we saw in the last 2 games.

Defensive solidity is to be praised. Zero plan to attack i think will draw the chairman's ire.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 23 Oct 20 6.09pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig I am not convinced Steve Parish would tolerate a full season of the kind of football we saw in the last 2 games. Defensive solidity is to be praised. Zero plan to attack i think will draw the chairman's ire. It may already have done given Roy's pre-match interview today in which he stated that last week wasn't good enough on the attacking front and the team would be looking to do better tomorrow. Has SP had a word, I wonder, because Roy's statement today was a far cry from his post-match interview last week?
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Too far from Selhurst Park 23 Oct 20 6.09pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I am not convinced Steve Parish would tolerate a full season of the kind of football we saw in the last 2 games.

Defensive solidity is to be praised. Zero plan to attack i think will draw the chairman's ire.

It may already have done given Roy's pre-match interview today in which he stated that last week wasn't good enough on the attacking front and the team would be looking to do better tomorrow. Has SP had a word, I wonder, because Roy's statement today was a far cry from his post-match interview last week?

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cryrst The garden of England 23 Oct 20 8.52pm
Originally posted by Willo I go back to what I have already posted (I am sounding like Graeme Souness!), managers are not removed of their duties after 4 games purely on results. But there are always exceptions to the rule willo.
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The garden of England 23 Oct 20 8.52pm

Originally posted by Willo

I go back to what I have already posted (I am sounding like Graeme Souness!), managers are not removed of their duties after 4 games purely on results.

But there are always exceptions to the rule willo.

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Davidgs32 Sutton 23 Oct 20 9.46pm
If tomorrow and the game after and the game after are repeats of the Brighton game then the Palace coaching team are so way off the mark it does not take football geniuses to understand we need a whole new management set up. A hard working team and the Macarther way is still important but we can normally get the ball back quite easily we need to make the other team work harder to get it back. Come on Palace repeat the way we played at United tomorrow.
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Sutton 23 Oct 20 9.46pm

If tomorrow and the game after and the game after are repeats of the Brighton game then the Palace coaching team are so way off the mark it does not take football geniuses to understand we need a whole new management set up. A hard working team and the Macarther way is still important but we can normally get the ball back quite easily we need to make the other team work harder to get it back. Come on Palace repeat the way we played at United tomorrow.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 23 Oct 20 9.46pm
Originally posted by Willo I go back to what I have already posted (I am sounding like Graeme Souness!), managers are not removed of their duties after 4 games purely on results. Unless their name is Frank de Boer?
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Too far from Selhurst Park 23 Oct 20 9.46pm

Originally posted by Willo

I go back to what I have already posted (I am sounding like Graeme Souness!), managers are not removed of their duties after 4 games purely on results.

Unless their name is Frank de Boer?

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 23 Oct 20 9.57pm
Originally posted by doombear Unless their name is Frank de Boer? I remember the centre back set up with the 19yr old untried Fosu-Mensah and Riedewald either side of Scott Dann against Huddersfield in the curtain raiser and a declining Puncheon in front of them. Never thought I'd be the kind of fan that wanted a manager sacked after one game but Parish gave him three more games than he deserved IMO. Messed things up at Inter before us and Atlanta after. Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (23 Oct 2020 10.01pm)
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Originally posted by doombear

Unless their name is Frank de Boer?

I remember the centre back set up with the 19yr old untried Fosu-Mensah and Riedewald either side of Scott Dann against Huddersfield in the curtain raiser and a declining Puncheon in front of them.

Never thought I'd be the kind of fan that wanted a manager sacked after one game but Parish gave him three more games than he deserved IMO.

Messed things up at Inter before us and Atlanta after.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (23 Oct 2020 10.01pm)

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deleted9 23 Oct 20 10.23pm
Just watched the Leeds v Villa game. Leeds fans are lucky to have a manager/coaching team in Bielsa and co. They play like a top 4 team; fearless, ferocious attacking play combined with defensive solidity. I’ve thus far been a Hodgson fan. Over the last 3 years, he’s stabilised us, carried us through a period of time in which we’ve spent very little money and coached an ageing, injury stricken squad to be resolute and finely tuned according to the skill set. HOWEVER, failure to beat Fulham in a dominant manner without showing a significant attacking improvement in comparison to last week may well start to tip me over into the Hodgson OUT camp. I’m confused as I’m safe in the knowledge that he’ll keep us up but scared we might have another ‘de boer’ if we try and change our style. My mindset is changing though.Why should just keeping us up be good enough? Why can’t he get more out of our squad? We have dynamic talent combined with resolute, well-drilled defenders. We should be putting on an improved performance. Beat Fulham convincingly and all is forgiven.
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23 Oct 20 10.23pm

Just watched the Leeds v Villa game. Leeds fans are lucky to have a manager/coaching team in Bielsa and co. They play like a top 4 team; fearless, ferocious attacking play combined with defensive solidity.

I’ve thus far been a Hodgson fan. Over the last 3 years, he’s stabilised us, carried us through a period of time in which we’ve spent very little money and coached an ageing, injury stricken squad to be resolute and finely tuned according to the skill set.

HOWEVER, failure to beat Fulham in a dominant manner without showing a significant attacking improvement in comparison to last week may well start to tip me over into the Hodgson OUT camp.

I’m confused as I’m safe in the knowledge that he’ll keep us up but scared we might have another ‘de boer’ if we try and change our style. My mindset is changing though.Why should just keeping us up be good enough? Why can’t he get more out of our squad? We have dynamic talent combined with resolute, well-drilled defenders. We should be putting on an improved performance.

Beat Fulham convincingly and all is forgiven.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 23 Oct 20 10.34pm
Originally posted by alexdyoung87 Just watched the Leeds v Villa game. Leeds fans are lucky to have a manager/coaching team in Bielsa and co. They play like a top 4 team; fearless, ferocious attacking play combined with defensive solidity. I’ve thus far been a Hodgson fan. Over the last 3 years, he’s stabilised us, carried us through a period of time in which we’ve spent very little money and coached an ageing, injury stricken squad to be resolute and finely tuned according to the skill set. HOWEVER, failure to beat Fulham in a dominant manner without showing a significant attacking improvement in comparison to last week may well start to tip me over into the Hodgson OUT camp. I’m confused as I’m safe in the knowledge that he’ll keep us up but scared we might have another ‘de boer’ if we try and change our style. My mindset is changing though.Why should just keeping us up be good enough? Why can’t he get more out of our squad? We have dynamic talent combined with resolute, well-drilled defenders. We should be putting on an improved performance. Beat Fulham convincingly and all is forgiven. There were some very bold predictions at the end of last season from fans on here about how good Tyrick Mitchell is and complaints that Roy can only play with three defensive midfield players. I don't like the last couple of performances but central midfield options who don't score goals, full backs who can't attack and a rotation of 30+ yr old centre backs doesn't help to get you playing in the opposition half. Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (23 Oct 2020 10.41pm)
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23 Oct 20 10.34pm

Originally posted by alexdyoung87

HOWEVER, failure to beat Fulham in a dominant manner without showing a significant attacking improvement in comparison to last week may well start to tip me over into the Hodgson OUT camp.

Beat Fulham convincingly and all is forgiven.

There were some very bold predictions at the end of last season from fans on here about how good Tyrick Mitchell is and complaints that Roy can only play with three defensive midfield players.

I don't like the last couple of performances but central midfield options who don't score goals, full backs who can't attack and a rotation of 30+ yr old centre backs doesn't help to get you playing in the opposition half.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (23 Oct 2020 10.41pm)

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redshift Toronto 23 Oct 20 10.41pm
Originally posted by alexdyoung87 Just watched the Leeds v Villa game. Leeds fans are lucky to have a manager/coaching team in Bielsa and co. They play like a top 4 team; fearless, ferocious attacking play combined with defensive solidity. I’ve thus far been a Hodgson fan. Over the last 3 years, he’s stabilised us, carried us through a period of time in which we’ve spent very little money and coached an ageing, injury stricken squad to be resolute and finely tuned according to the skill set. HOWEVER, failure to beat Fulham in a dominant manner without showing a significant attacking improvement in comparison to last week may well start to tip me over into the Hodgson OUT camp. I’m confused as I’m safe in the knowledge that he’ll keep us up but scared we might have another ‘de boer’ if we try and change our style. My mindset is changing though.Why should just keeping us up be good enough? Why can’t he get more out of our squad? We have dynamic talent combined with resolute, well-drilled defenders. We should be putting on an improved performance. Beat Fulham convincingly and all is forgiven. That was a nice game to watch. One thing I took away was that Leeds has speed out the Wazoo. We have none. Our aging squad couldn't run down an old lady in a walker. That's the situation we're stuck in. I think too this is why Roy is so concerned with shape and playing a box-based style. We just aren't fast enough to recover if we make a mistake. That's likely not changing any time soon since the players, like me, are getting older every day. This is as always only my humble opinion. Success will lie to you but failure always tells you the truth.
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Toronto 23 Oct 20 10.41pm

Originally posted by alexdyoung87

HOWEVER, failure to beat Fulham in a dominant manner without showing a significant attacking improvement in comparison to last week may well start to tip me over into the Hodgson OUT camp.

Beat Fulham convincingly and all is forgiven.

That was a nice game to watch. One thing I took away was that Leeds has speed out the Wazoo. We have none. Our aging squad couldn't run down an old lady in a walker. That's the situation we're stuck in.

I think too this is why Roy is so concerned with shape and playing a box-based style. We just aren't fast enough to recover if we make a mistake. That's likely not changing any time soon since the players, like me, are getting older every day.

This is as always only my humble opinion.

Success will lie to you but failure always tells you the truth.

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PatrickA London 24 Oct 20 8.47am
Having watched Roy’s press conference from yesterday it would seem he’s either deluded or distorting events. He was asked specifically if he was concerned about only one shot against Brighton. He responded sarcastically that’s only a concern for ‘you guys (the media) or betting companies ‘ and was more interested in ‘creating havoc in the opposing penalty areas.’ He was giving the impression we were doing this even if only one shot was made. The reality is that we’re around the bottom in the table of goals scored, chances created and efforts on goal and this has been the case for a long time. Hardly ‘creating havoc in opposing penalty areas’ Roy. We can pose more of a threat, as we did against Man Utd, and we looked better for it . Just take the handbrake of when the opportunity is there in a game!
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London 24 Oct 20 8.47am

Having watched Roy’s press conference from yesterday it would seem he’s either deluded or distorting events.
He was asked specifically if he was concerned about only one shot against Brighton.
He responded sarcastically that’s only a concern for ‘you guys (the media) or betting companies ‘ and was more interested in ‘creating havoc in the opposing penalty areas.’
He was giving the impression we were doing this even if only one shot was made.
The reality is that we’re around the bottom in the table of goals scored, chances created and efforts on goal and this has been the case for a long time.
Hardly ‘creating havoc in opposing penalty areas’ Roy.
We can pose more of a threat, as we did against Man Utd, and we looked better for it .
Just take the handbrake of when the opportunity is there in a game!

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Eaglehamster Storrington 24 Oct 20 10.44am
If we're so at risk, due to lack of pace, why not try a youngster or two? WTF are our youth team for? I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.
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Storrington 24 Oct 20 10.44am

If we're so at risk, due to lack of pace, why not try a youngster or two?

WTF are our youth team for?

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

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