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cryrst Flag The garden of England 02 Dec 19 7.04pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

If we’re going to blame a film, I’d suggest seeing it would be the basic requirement.

Oh because no one would know what it's about until the lights went down.
Yup we all go to the cinema not having a rough idea of what the film we want to see is about.
That's obviously why there is no correlation in the type of film and the type of people wanting to watch it.
It all makes sense now !!!

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 02 Dec 19 7.06pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

when 90% of the immigration into the country is male

you get a lopsided gender balance (overly male) living in the country


thus, you get a violent society.

(nothing to do with Movies )

Maybe if the family to follow rule was ditched these men might not come here.
Personally I dont think they give an absolute crap about their women and kids otherwise they wouldn't have left them.

 

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sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 02 Dec 19 7.12pm Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I’m far from convinced there is a link, would be my honest answer.

I don’t know what crime rates at cinemas are like generally, but I’d imagine they’re fairly regular given cinemas are a relatively insecure, late night venue which kids can access.

The brawl in Birmingham was obviously something way outside of normal, but we’re talking about 100 kids brawling in what is essentially a shopping centre (that also happens to host a cinema) - I’ve seen similar in Whitgift and Stratford Westfield - I don’t see any link to the film.

You can see how easy the link is to make though and how it happens so quickly; just look at the phrasing of your question - “many incidents of violence at the cinema” - what that really means is there was one brawl, which people tried to attribute to this film, and now every incidient at a cinema where this film is playing (which is every cinema in the country) there’s a nice scapegoat to use, as we see in the link above - neither participant saw the film, said anything about the film, the police dismiss the link, but the Newspaper headline does the complete opposite and people lap it up because it sits a narrative.

Ok. I agree the film has not/cannot have influenced these people if they have not seen it.
Would you concede that the film being shown has drawn a certain type of person, in a certain lifestyle, into the cinema where they have clashed with rivals?

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 02 Dec 19 8.26pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Oh because no one would know what it's about until the lights went down.
Yup we all go to the cinema not having a rough idea of what the film we want to see is about.
That's obviously why there is no correlation in the type of film and the type of people wanting to watch it.
It all makes sense now !!!

Is there any evidence that any of any of those involved were at the cinema because of the film?

Or do they just fit a very broad demographic of people? and is that enough to be so sure of a correlation? Bearing in mind millions of people have actually seen it.

For me, it’s not.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (02 Dec 2019 8.31pm)

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 02 Dec 19 8.30pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by sickboy

Ok. I agree the film has not/cannot have influenced these people if they have not seen it.
Would you concede that the film being shown has drawn a certain type of person, in a certain lifestyle, into the cinema where they have clashed with rivals?

I think I’ve answered in my response to cryst; I haven’t seen anything to suggest they were drawn to the cinema for that film other than they fit a rough demographic.

My view is that the type of arseholes roaming the streets with machetes are not particularly influenced in their day to day decisions by what’s on at the cinema that day.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (02 Dec 2019 8.31pm)

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 02 Dec 19 9.11pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I think I’ve answered in my response to cryst; I haven’t seen anything to suggest they were drawn to the cinema for that film other than they fit a rough demographic.

My view is that the type of arseholes roaming the streets with machetes are not particularly influenced in their day to day decisions by what’s on at the cinema that day.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (02 Dec 2019 8.31pm)

Possibly not influenced but they may be attracted by the probability of like minded individuals, particularly rivals, seeing the film.
The target demographic is simply more likely to commit violent acts than that at the last night of the proms.

 

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dannyboy1978 Flag 02 Dec 19 10.25pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I think I’ve answered in my response to cryst; I haven’t seen anything to suggest they were drawn to the cinema for that film other than they fit a rough demographic.

My view is that the type of arseholes roaming the streets with machetes are not particularly influenced in their day to day decisions by what’s on at the cinema that day.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (02 Dec 2019 8.31pm)

A film about gangs! I'm pretty sure you know what person that would want to see it.

Remember feever pitch, have a guess of who wanted to watch that.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 08 Dec 19 9.11pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Went to get a Christmas tree today and two white teenage friends jesting about what they would do to each other, in an aggressive tone and inner London Street chat. I suppose as white lads supporting Chelsea now sound like this I shouldn’t be surprised. I think they might be working at the place at the end of plough Lane in Purley in the mini roundabout.

Anyway, made me raise an eyebrow. I almost see how black or Asian youths sound like this but when it’s white boys from leafy suburbs I have to wonder what’s happened to their brain cells. Maybe that’s how some talk on the mount estate in Coulsdon. Why I don’t know. Cringe if they do. I doubt many tradesmen would employ and train them.

‘I cut you, my blade up’ or some rubbish in jumbled up sentences after a while of ‘chattin’ shyte between each other. Reminded me of Alexander Armstrong being interviewed by Fern Cotton I think this morning on his career and the sketch I like with him and miller talking in old RAF accents and uniform but in street chat dialogue.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (08 Dec 2019 9.15pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Dec 19 9.44pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I've had murders with my Christmas trees.

Never buy a frigging online Christmas tree.....is a lesson I wish I'd learnt the first time.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Dec 19 10.31am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I've had murders with my Christmas trees.

Never buy a frigging online Christmas tree.....is a lesson I wish I'd learnt the first time.

Is that a real tree or imitation one?

There’s real ones being sold everywhere these days but unless they have the wrapping machine you’re buying it blind with it already wrapped up and probably bent up for days.

Those ones advertised on tv this year that have imitation needles that look real rather than thin strips of nylon look pretty good on their website but very very expensive.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 09 Dec 19 10.38am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Is that a real tree or imitation one?

There’s real ones being sold everywhere these days but unless they have the wrapping machine you’re buying it blind with it already wrapped up and probably bent up for days.

Those ones advertised on tv this year that have imitation needles that look real rather than thin strips of nylon look pretty good on their website but very very expensive.

It's as fake as Labour's manifesto.

I spent £200 quid on this one.....It's ok once I did it up, but I expected better for that wonger......Had to pull branches around from the back to cover gaps.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Dec 2019 10.40am)

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Dec 19 10.55am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

How long do they last?

 


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