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tetley Wimbledon 24 Nov 04 9.18pm | |
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Quote Jay_Palace at 24 Nov 2004 4:43pm
Just to put a different slant on this discussion, but is having monkey noises/gestures directed at you any worse than being abused because of your height, hair colour, sexual orientation, nationality etc. jay_palace, i used to think this myself, but there is something more important to consider beyond the veener of a persons skin colour. for instance, for evry black man there is a culture that streteches back thousands of years which they are proud of. many of them feel that their whlole tradition is being undermined when racially taunted. as far as i'm aware, there is not (yet) a huge tradition of music, art etc running in the history of people of ginger hair. of course this may change in the future and then the ninja's might have a leg to stand on. Edited by Penge Eagle (02 Dec 2004 12:55am)
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rach_cpfc South Croydon 24 Nov 04 10.52pm | |
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Quote pikey_eagle at 24 Nov 2004 6:52pm
I'm with Jay on this one. Etc. But, you or I have no idea what that'd be like if we'd been in a minority group our whole lives, and suffered from racism all that time.
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Seth On a pale blue dot 24 Nov 04 11.02pm | |
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Quote matthau at 24 Nov 2004 8:25pm
what i find out of order is the fact that we openly accept temples being erected in the UK but if a small british, or generally white community would try to make a christian Church in Dehli theyd be strung up. PCorrectness can somtimes go to far one way...
Delhi is of course in India, which has large populations of Christians, Muslims etc 99.9% of whom live side by side with the majority Hindu community with no problems whatsoever. For the record, India's population is (at a 2000 estimate) 1,014,003,817 The breakdown according to religion is: Hindu 80%, Muslim 14%, Christian 2.4%, Sikh 2%, Buddhist 0.7%, Jains 0.5%, other 0.4% 2.4% of a billion is (I think) 24 million. That's quite a lot of Christians, not many of whom will have been, as you put it, "strung up". Why don't people think about what they're saying before they spout such drivel?
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ouzo Rafina 25 Nov 04 12.25pm | |
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On an individual level I can't see that there is any difference whether you abuse someone racially or for any other reason, such as height, weight etc. Verbal abuse is pretty meaningless as a one of comment from someone who does't know you. The problem, however, isn't one of individual abuse but the systematic abuse that the black people have faced for centuaries. It isn't that long age the apartheid was abolished in South Africa. I am sure no one would accept that it is right to have segregation due to skin colour, such as white only beaches etc. In England we have never had to experience so severly these conditions and for myself, not being black, I can't fully imagine how bad it must be to be considered as a second class citizen just because of the colour of my skin. The reason that racism in football is so strongly condemned is because it is probably the most well supported sport worldwide. Therefore the sport has to be seen to be removing this aspect from the game and showing to the world that there is no place for racism in any part of society.
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big fat london boy gillingham..(pykey land) 25 Nov 04 12.36pm | |
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the thing that i find strange is the coloured footballers are almost worshiped by millions of white football followers world wide but there does seem to be a lack of coloured people who actually go to see a game of football.im not saying that no coloured people go but 99% for arguements sake are white... Edited by big fat london boy (25 Nov 2004 12:36pm)
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ChewyB Cuxton, Kent 25 Nov 04 12.44pm | |
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Its Political correctness gone mad!!
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HorshamEagle under the union jack 25 Nov 04 12.45pm | |
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How about homophobic abuse? you hear that on a regular basis at football, takes it up the arse, does your boyfriend know your here e.t.c. This isn't treated with the same contempt, even though it's flung at an opposition player or fans in a derrogatory mannor. Calling someone a black b****** is racist because your using the colour of their skin as a descriptive term in a derogatory mannor. As a white person, i wouldn't call someone a white b******.
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big fat london boy gillingham..(pykey land) 25 Nov 04 12.48pm | |
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this ones gonna run and run...
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robbo Coventry 25 Nov 04 12.49pm | |
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albino t***
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big fat london boy gillingham..(pykey land) 25 Nov 04 12.56pm | |
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calling my brief as i reply ....
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ChewyB Cuxton, Kent 25 Nov 04 12.59pm | |
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Same could be said about pikeys couldn't it? Or Northern s***stabbers.
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kav The Helicopter View 25 Nov 04 1.48pm | |
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"Your tie looks sh1t!"Sue me. I`m a tie-est and I`m proud of it ! Edited by kav (25 Nov 2004 1:49pm)
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