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Legal Eagle Flag A town where fog lights shine, eve... 30 Oct 04 4.26pm Send a Private Message to Legal Eagle Add Legal Eagle as a friend

Quote mattwebb at 30 Oct 2004 2:41pm

You are a nob, simply.

My word, what an argument.

P.S. I assume Ray Reynolds surveyed the tens (hundreds?) of thousands of dead Iraqis too, right?

Edited by Legal Eagle (30 Oct 2004 4:28pm)

 


It's just a matter of crossing the i's and dotting the t's

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NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 30 Oct 04 4.33pm Send a Private Message to NickinOX Add NickinOX as a friend

Check the links on these topics provided by people arguing against Mattweb. The independent group counting Iraqi civilian deaths are claiming 12-13,000!

Mattweb, nice intelligent reasoning, I have to agree with LegalEagle on that one. I can understand if you are responding directly to an abusive post... But not if that is not the case.

 

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nesaru Flag Brighton 30 Oct 04 7.49pm Send a Private Message to nesaru Add nesaru as a friend

Quote mattwebb at 30 Oct 2004 2:41pm

You are a nob, simply.


Being able to put forward an intelligible argument that goes against your opinion doesn't make me a "nob". Snarky and opinionated bitch, maybe...


Edited by nesaru (30 Oct 2004 8:08pm)

 


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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 30 Oct 04 7.51pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Quote mattwebb at 30 Oct 2004 2:41pm

You are a nob, simply.

Read the posting guidelines. Show respect for other posters or your stay with us may be very short.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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mattwebb Flag Sutton 31 Oct 04 4.35pm Send a Private Message to mattwebb Add mattwebb as a friend

To say I get my opinions from Top Gear, left me with no alternative but to react the way I did.

I never said the police do nothing, you obviously can't read, I said they have the wrong priorities.

I take it you think that killing an innocent unborn child for convenience is better than fighting to protect the world from an evil dictator?

How can anyone justify killing children, who haven't even had their first breath yet, and then condemn the war in Iraq, what a nonsense!

You condemn yourself with your stupidity, and you provide me with more justification for my earlier words.


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Legal Eagle Flag A town where fog lights shine, eve... 31 Oct 04 4.43pm Send a Private Message to Legal Eagle Add Legal Eagle as a friend

Quote mattwebb at 31 Oct 2004 4:35pm

To say I get my opinions from Top Gear, left me with no alternative but to call you a nob.

I never said the police do nothing, you obviously can't read, I said they have the wrong priorities.

I take it you think that killing an innocent unborn child for convenience is better than fighting to protect the world from an evil dictator?

How can anyone justify killing children, who haven't even had their first breath yet, and then condemn the war in Iraq, what a nonsense!

You condemn yourself with your stupidity, and you provide me with more justification for my earlier words.


To be honest, equating abortion (which is morally dubious - and not even so in everyones mind - but quite legal) to an illegal conflict is a completely unnecessary and illogical argument.

But to entertain this tangent, may I ask your opinion on the abortion of a foetus resulting from rape?

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nesaru Flag Brighton 31 Oct 04 5.05pm Send a Private Message to nesaru Add nesaru as a friend

Quote mattwebb at 31 Oct 2004 4:35pm

To say I get my opinions from Top Gear, left me with no alternative but to call you a nob.

I never said the police do nothing, you obviously can't read, I said they have the wrong priorities.

I take it you think that killing an innocent unborn child for convenience is better than fighting to protect the world from an evil dictator?

How can anyone justify killing children, who haven't even had their first breath yet, and then condemn the war in Iraq, what a nonsense!

You condemn yourself with your stupidity, and you provide me with more justification for my earlier words.


The police having the wrong priorities because they concentrate on speeding more than anything else is a very Top Gear opinion. Plus, I never compared abortion to the war in Iraq.

You say I can't read, and yet twist my words to try and justify a mindless response. Hm...

Don't get me started on abortion. Especially with you.

Edited by nesaru (31 Oct 2004 5:06pm)

 


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mattwebb Flag Sutton 01 Nov 04 9.44am Send a Private Message to mattwebb Add mattwebb as a friend

What justifies murdering unborn children?

Rape? No it doesn't.

If you gave birth and then killed it what would be the difference, would that be ok? No you say, but it is the result of rape!

Rape is awful, but does not justify killing an innocent child. If you cannot live with the baby, then adoption is the only option.

If any of you try to justify killing children, then my debtate with you is clearly a waste of time, as you have the morals of Hitler.

 

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Legal Eagle Flag A town where fog lights shine, eve... 01 Nov 04 10.54am Send a Private Message to Legal Eagle Add Legal Eagle as a friend

Quote mattwebb at 01 Nov 2004 9:44am

What justifies murdering unborn children?

Rape? No it doesn't.

If you gave birth and then killed it what would be the difference, would that be ok? No you say, but it is the result of rape!

Rape is awful, but does not justify killing an innocent child. If you cannot live with the baby, then adoption is the only option.

If any of you try to justify killing children, then my debtate with you is clearly a waste of time, as you have the morals of Hitler.


Personally I consider you to be the most judgemental person I have encountered on this site, and your comparisons grow forever more bizarre.

As you say yourself, this would be a waste of time to debate, so I will not bother. What I will recommend is that you stop viewing everything in quite such a black and white manner, the world is not so clear cut.

 


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mattwebb Flag Sutton 01 Nov 04 10.03pm Send a Private Message to mattwebb Add mattwebb as a friend

It is, it's just that we disguise it by calling unborn children foetuses (sp?).

If this is not black and white, please explain to me what the "grey area" is.

How can there be a grey area when discussing the option of killing unborn children.

The womb is supposed to be the safest place for a child, a sanctuary, and then brutal adults come along and just flush it down the toilet.

The only case where killing an unborn baby is permissable, (or should I say "termination" or "abortion" so it doesn't sound so bad so we can keep people's consciences at ease), is when it is done to save the life of the mother.

 

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laddo Flag london 02 Nov 04 12.42am Send a Private Message to laddo Add laddo as a friend

You naieve right wing pricks. Iraq better? Tell that to Ken Bigley, tell that to the 49 Iraqi soldiers massacred for wanting to join their new security forces, tell that to those innocent people caught up in car bombs, tell that to the countless people being taken hostage, tell it to the innocent civilians still getting caught up in "covert operations"!

Kiss my arse you right wing pricks who believe imperialism is a good thing. Go and bum suck Bush like you know you want to. You're pathetic.

Hope you enjoyed todays Sun or Daily Mail.

 


laddo

"People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist".
David Brent.

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laddo Flag london 02 Nov 04 12.57am Send a Private Message to laddo Add laddo as a friend

You christian nutters are part of the reason why the world is so fcuked. You spout on about abortion, about how evil it is yet the bombing of Iraqi civilians is justified in your opinion. Is that because they are mostly muslim? The life of a muslim, a living muslim child means less to you doesn't it Matt?

It's so scary that the likes of you still have a platform. I don't mean to get personal but the double standards of religion makes me sick, and you preaching crap regarding abortion makes the so angry.

Evil dictator, and I suppose Mr Bush is a great man is he? Then again he is a religious, anti-abortion, anti-gay fool too so don't bother answering that one.

Quote mattwebb at 01 Nov 2004 10:03pm

It is, it's just that we disguise it by calling unborn children foetuses (sp?).

If this is not black and white, please explain to me what the "grey area" is.

How can there be a grey area when discussing the option of killing unborn children.

The womb is supposed to be the safest place for a child, a sanctuary, and then brutal adults come along and just flush it down the toilet.

The only case where killing an unborn baby is permissable, (or should I say "termination" or "abortion" so it doesn't sound so bad so we can keep people's consciences at ease), is when it is done to save the life of the mother.


 


laddo

"People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist".
David Brent.

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