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Originally posted by eagleman13
Or just maybe Humphrey Bogart? Yes but his name wasn't Bogarde.
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Got it horribly wrong this time round. which gave him a near impossible task to win the thing. But like Moses and the Parting of the sea, the draw yet again opened up to show him to way to glory. He cautiously trod the seabed, his team just managing to drag him through before he succumbed to the closing waves behind him. The past Euro's has been a weird tournament, which has broken from 'the norm'. Whatever happens now, the next manager is going to have one hell of a job on his hands. He has the weight of Southgates Stats as a yardstick to beat him with.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Yes but his name wasn't Bogarde. True, tho tbf, chelsea players aren't that bright, perhaps they got it from one of their Beano comics . . .
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Originally posted by eagleman13
True, tho tbf, chelsea players aren't that bright, perhaps they got it from one of their Beano comics . . . Indeed. It's a wonder they didn't sign Jason 'Trigger" McAteer.
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27% of goals we've ever scored at major tournaments have been under Southgate.
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I know people will say this and that about Southgates tenure. But for me personally, hes actually made memories that will last a life time during the tournaments he's managed. And I know we didn't win any trophies but that summer of 2018 was personally amazing and England & Gareth was a big part of it. Easy to think before him we had gone out of a world cup bottom of the group and then losing to iceland. Whilst I agree he may or could of gone after 2022, I think the next key part is too keep the the good elements of his tenure (like the players wanting to play for england, building a club ethos within the camp, strengthening the relationship between the media. What we need next is Evolution, not revolution and a more tactically astute manager to get us across the finish line. (lets face it, it will be Howe, Potter or Carsley - pros and cons to all 3) I just fear whoever the next manager is, will be expected to win the world cup in 2026 in their first tournament, and thats just not realistic at all.
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and until England produce ball keeping midfielders, who can pass and move without breaking a sweat and don't panic in possession, we will struggle to win anything None of the midfielders we went with (probably bar wharton, but he is unproven at this level) could dominate or control a game. And this has been the story of England since the 80s
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Originally posted by MFW94
I know people will say this and that about Southgates tenure. But for me personally, hes actually made memories that will last a life time during the tournaments he's managed. And I know we didn't win any trophies but that summer of 2018 was personally amazing and England & Gareth was a big part of it. Easy to think before him we had gone out of a world cup bottom of the group and then losing to iceland. Whilst I agree he may or could of gone after 2022, I think the next key part is too keep the the good elements of his tenure (like the players wanting to play for england, building a club ethos within the camp, strengthening the relationship between the media. What we need next is Evolution, not revolution and a more tactically astute manager to get us across the finish line. (lets face it, it will be Howe, Potter or Carsley - pros and cons to all 3) I just fear whoever the next manager is, will be expected to win the world cup in 2026 in their first tournament, and thats just not realistic at all. It's been posted before but, once more, England lost 3 out of 7 matches at the 2018 World Cup.
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Originally posted by YT
It's been posted before but, once more, England lost 3 out of 7 matches at the 2018 World Cup. Seriously, who gives a single s*** that we lost the third group game (having already qualified + made 8 changes) and a third place play off? It was a great tournament - for a lot of people the first time they'd ever seen England have anything like a proper tournament run, and understandably that was a hugely positive experience and something they will remember fondly. We were not expected to achieve anything going into it, and ended up massively over-achieving with a squad of young, likeable players and that got people excited.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Seriously, who gives a single s*** that we lost the third group game (having already qualified + made 8 changes) and a third place play off? It was a great tournament - for a lot of people the first time they'd ever seen England have anything like a proper tournament run, and understandably that was a hugely positive experience and something they will remember fondly. We were not expected to achieve anything going into it, and ended up massively over-achieving with a squad of young, likeable players and that got people excited.
Well I did and presumably a fair number of the millions who watched it on TV or those who paid a fortune to be there did. Maybe you view sport differently to me, but I always want my team to win, otherwise there's no point turning up. I grant you there was a good performance against Sweden, but that was sandwiched by two very poor ones against Colombia and Croatia.
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Originally posted by YT
Well I did and presumably a fair number of the millions who watched it on TV or those who paid a fortune to be there did. Maybe you view sport differently to me, but I always want my team to win, otherwise there's no point turning up. I grant you there was a good performance against Sweden, but that was sandwiched by two very poor ones against Colombia and Croatia. No one gave a s*** at the time. Always wanting your team to win doesn’t mean you have to pretend every game is equally important - I always want Palace to win but I don’t pretend it’s important if we lose a pre season friendly.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
No one gave a s*** at the time. Always wanting your team to win doesn’t mean you have to pretend every game is equally important - I always want Palace to win but I don’t pretend it’s important if we lose a pre season friendly. I have to agree, about the third place play off, it’s regarded by most of the football world, the most pointless game in football, the losing semi finalists just want to get on the plane and go home.
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