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 Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 26 Mar 24 3.56pm |
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Yet another thread descends into personal critiques. The same face keeps appearing.
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 26 Mar 24 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
My cynicism about the Mail started decades ago when it became a tabloid and my friend started working for it. He gave me a lot of information about the attitudes and motivations of the owners. It’s not a newspaper. It’s propaganda dressed up as news. Your opinion. Based on hearsay
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 georgenorman  26 Mar 24 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Most things that people claim to be truth are, in fact, opinion. [Wisbech Eagle] "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." [Orwell] Edited by georgenorman (26 Mar 2024 3.58pm)
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Mar 24 4.02pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
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Not that someone has written a programme to help them identify things that might help them make a decision? The computer doesn't make the decision - it provides the analysis the institution /publisher wants. In no uncertain terms, you will not be published or receive funding if your work is not on 'trend'. There are many programs available today.
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 26 Mar 24 4.18pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
My cynicism about the Mail started decades ago when it became a tabloid and my friend started working for it. He gave me a lot of information about the attitudes and motivations of the owners. It’s not a newspaper. It’s propaganda dressed up as news. Sociologists would argue that you read a newspaper that reflects your own views; a sort of self-confirmation exercise. What I find worrying is that you dismiss others views because in your opinion the Mail is not a newspaper. This is not healthy if only one conduit of news is acceptable in the world. If the Mail’s article is untrue I expect them to be taken to court and to lose. I will stay tuned to see if that happens.
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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| JRW2 Dulwich 26 Mar 24 4.21pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That’s your opinion. Which isn’t news. It's not an opinion. But it's news to you apparently. If you're interested in remedying your ignorance of government waste, I recommend that you read "The Blunders of our Governments", by two distinguished political scientists. The late Baroness Shirley Williams, a former Labour minister, who called the book "a truly shocking cautionary tale", is just one among a host of A-list journalists and former politicians who have praised the book. If you read it, I suggest having a pencil and paper to hand so you can keep count of the accumulating hundreds of billions of taxpayers' money going up in smoke. Go on, read it. I guess you won't like it, but you'll learn something.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 26 Mar 24 4.25pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Typical Daily Mail report and predictable responses here to it. You all do love to have a moan about something the Mail reports as a “woke” waste of money! Neither the Mail nor anybody here knows the true rationale which lies behind this project. It could easily be multi-faceted and intended to meet several objectives. People tend not to throw money at worthless projects so making assumptions on any analysis presented by the Mail is many times more questionable than a peer reviewed decision made by a University. A spokesman for UKRI said: 'UKRI invests in a diverse research and innovation portfolio. Decisions to fund the research projects we support are made via a rigorous peer review process by relevant independent experts from across academia and business.' Are you familiar with the phrase 'choose your battles'? I've no idea why you try to defend this sort of nonsense - it's every bit as partisan as you accuse others of being. Yes, it's true the Mail stir the pot on the woke stuff, but it's also true there is a lot of nonsense going on in that regard - you don't have to try and disprove each and every example.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 26 Mar 24 4.28pm |
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Originally posted by JRW2
It's not an opinion. But it's news to you apparently. If you're interested in remedying your ignorance of government waste, I recommend that you read "The Blunders of our Governments", by two distinguished political scientists. The late Baroness Shirley Williams, a former Labour minister, who called the book "a truly shocking cautionary tale", is just one among a host of A-list journalists and former politicians who have praised the book. If you read it, I suggest having a pencil and paper to hand so you can keep count of the accumulating hundreds of billions of taxpayers' money going up in smoke. Go on, read it. I guess you won't like it, but you'll learn something. I will check that out - sounds right up my street! To suggest public money isn't often wasted is so laughably and demonstrably untrue it's hard to believe it's not satire.
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Teddy Eagle  26 Mar 24 4.29pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There normally has to be rather more point than that but maybe you can find an idiot with deep pockets. Try writing to Northcliffe House 2 Derry Street London W8 5TT. I am sure they would listen Funding is no problem although they'll only commit to a couple of million. Convincing the wife of the inestimable value of this research is more of a challenge.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Mar 24 4.30pm |
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I recommend 'Dark Academia: How Universities die' by Peter Fleming as a starting point.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Mar 24 5.32pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Your opinion. Based on hearsay My observation. Supported by inside information.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Mar 24 5.39pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Sociologists would argue that you read a newspaper that reflects your own views; a sort of self-confirmation exercise. What I find worrying is that you dismiss others views because in your opinion the Mail is not a newspaper. This is not healthy if only one conduit of news is acceptable in the world. If the Mail’s article is untrue I expect them to be taken to court and to lose. I will stay tuned to see if that happens. The Mail like all such publications employ lawyers to check copy to try to ensure that doesn’t happen. It’s how they spin a story so that it can be argued that it’s reasonable opinion and plausibly deniable. It’s often what they don’t say, by omitting context or salient facts, that turns it into propaganda. There is no doubt at all that the Mail is very good at this. By far the best out there. It’s almost an art form of malicious disinformation.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
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