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southnorwoodhill Flag 26 Feb 24 8.24am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Despite my attempts to assess him in another similar thread, saying that he was at that point our top scorer (in a Hodgson side offering chances far and few between) - nevertheless, he is lazy beyond bone idle and doesn't seem interested, even in a game with a new manager to impress. His biggest effort of the week must be to log in to check his bank account. Reminds me of Christian Benteke.
Drop him, others are waiting for the chance.

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 26 Feb 24 8.43am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Palacesince64

I watched Edouard at Celtic and he was a natural goal scorer at his best coming in form the left. He was never someone who would track back but you could forgive him given his ability to finish. Ignoring the insults about Scottish football being pub football, I accept it’s a step up to playing the PL. However Edouard scored for Celticbin big games including in the Champions League. His last season was poor by his standards. He still scored goals in a decent Celtic side but his already limited work rate became worse to the point where Celtic were glad to sell him.

He has undoubted ability, but he’s never going to work like Jordan Ayew. If Glasner can get him scoring goals then he’s worth keeping but if not then he needs to move on in the summer.

Complete Hogwash, Celtic are a mid table Championship team, at best, playing teams from league 2/ National league

 


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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 26 Feb 24 8.43am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Complete Hogwash, Celtic are a mid table Championship team, at best, playing teams from league 2/ National league

Sorry, Willo

 


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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 Feb 24 8.53am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

If Edouard wants and is given the sole responsibility of scoring goals I am sure he'll produce however given the size of our club and the league it competes in, he will always be asked to do more and I am certain he has no intention of doing so.

If the argument is therefore 'that's not his game/style/how he plays or best operates', so be it, that's fair enough, but he should probably be plying his trade elsewhere.

That'll work nicely at Celtic and the opposition they play however won't cut it in a 'Big League'. If he adapted, sought improvement and stepped up a level he'd be a superstar for us but similarly to Benteke, again, I don't think that's going to happen.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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MrRobbo Flag Chaldon 26 Feb 24 9.04am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

With Eze back, and Franca impressing I cant see Edouard getting a huge amount of game time now.

As you said Nicholas91, in a team like ours, in a league like ours, strikers HAVE to do more.

He's technically pretty good, can dribble and can finish. But he's much better suited to a slower league and in a team that has a load of the ball.

If he was put up for sale for £10-15m, I cant see any other Prem team bidding for him, and that's telling.

(That being said, we've seen with JPM that adding some desire and work rate can do wonders. So he could turn it around, but I doubt it)

 

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Palacesince64 Flag Edinburgh 26 Feb 24 2.43pm Send a Private Message to Palacesince64 Add Palacesince64 as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Complete Hogwash, Celtic are a mid table Championship team, at best, playing teams from league 2/ National league

Who was it who said “You’re all entitled to your own ridiculous opinions”?

In terms of facts , Celtic have played English PL teams in Europe 20 times, won 7, lost 7, drawn 6 including their last 2 results in the Champions League against Pep’s Man City where they drew 3-3 at home and 1-1 at the Etihad. Ange’s Celtic of last season would have given most PL teams a run for their money. Unfortunately they replaced him with Brendan Rogers and the current Celtic side would be in the PL relegation tussle for sure.

 

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dreamwaverider Flag London 26 Feb 24 3.04pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

With Eze back, and Franca impressing I cant see Edouard getting a huge amount of game time now.

As you said Nicholas91, in a team like ours, in a league like ours, strikers HAVE to do more.

He's technically pretty good, can dribble and can finish. But he's much better suited to a slower league and in a team that has a load of the ball.

If he was put up for sale for £10-15m, I cant see any other Prem team bidding for him, and that's telling.

(That being said, we've seen with JPM that adding some desire and work rate can do wonders. So he could turn it around, but I doubt it)

He's got one season left with us. He earns £4m/yr so if we could get £5m in the summer, we are £10m up. SELL.

 

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PatrickA Flag London 26 Feb 24 3.35pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

To try and be fair the position of striker is one of the most difficult to recruit and in my 50 plus years of supporting Palace we’ve had our share of duds.
Langley, Aylott, McCullough, Mahoney, Possee, Easter etc. spring to mind.
We even experimented with a centre half, Coleman, as a striker.
The good ones you could count on one hand - Bright, Wright, Johnson and Murray.
Others have had limited success -Queen, Swindlehurst, Walsh, Bourne and Shipperly.

So on to Edouard.
To my mind he’s not the answer to our striking needs.
There have been spells where he has scored a few goals in batches and some extrapolate this to suggest that he’s a 15 goal a season striker.
Problem is , it never happens and is unlikely to.
How many on here would offer him a new 3 year contract?
In all his time here I don’t think I’ve ever seen him outjump , outmuscle or outrun a defender.
His control of the ball is decent (if not under pressure) and on occasions he’s a calm finisher but this almost feels like damning him with faint praise because of the other shortcomings in his game.

I’ve more or less given up on the idea of a 15-20 goal a season striker for us, at least in the Premier League, and would like us to to have a range of options to score from, e.g from midfield, the flanks, corners and set pieces.
It’s evident that for all their flamboyant play, Arsenal score a lot of goals from corners.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 26 Feb 24 4.17pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

To try and be fair the position of striker is one of the most difficult to recruit and in my 50 plus years of supporting Palace we’ve had our share of duds.
Langley, Aylott, McCullough, Mahoney, Possee, Easter etc. spring to mind.
We even experimented with a centre half, Coleman, as a striker.
The good ones you could count on one hand - Bright, Wright, Johnson and Murray.
Others have had limited success -Queen, Swindlehurst, Walsh, Bourne and Shipperly.

So on to Edouard.
To my mind he’s not the answer to our striking needs.
There have been spells where he has scored a few goals in batches and some extrapolate this to suggest that he’s a 15 goal a season striker.
Problem is , it never happens and is unlikely to.
How many on here would offer him a new 3 year contract?
In all his time here I don’t think I’ve ever seen him outjump , outmuscle or outrun a defender.
His control of the ball is decent (if not under pressure) and on occasions he’s a calm finisher but this almost feels like damning him with faint praise because of the other shortcomings in his game.

I’ve more or less given up on the idea of a 15-20 goal a season striker for us, at least in the Premier League, and would like us to to have a range of options to score from, e.g from midfield, the flanks, corners and set pieces.
It’s evident that for all their flamboyant play, Arsenal score a lot of goals from corners.

Hopefully this can be remedied with Glasners appointment. I watched the Arsenal v Newcastle game at the weekend & the commentator happened to mention that when Arsenals 3rd or 4th goal when in Arteta could be seen congratulating the goal with his 'Set piece coach' I believe our set piece coach is our Goal keeping coach Dean Kiely !!

 


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PatrickA Flag London 26 Feb 24 4.23pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Glasner has brought in a set piece coach amongst his team.

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 26 Feb 24 4.33pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

Glasner has brought in a set piece coach amongst his team.


He's brought in TWO as I understand it (might that be one for attack and one for defence?)

 

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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 26 Feb 24 4.48pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

If Mateta can turn his game around then you have to hope that Edouard can do the same.

It will be interesting to see what OG does with him and what he can get from him.

In my opinion he doesn't play with the required intensity to be effective at Premier League level. Everything seems a bit half hearted with him.

If he continues in the way he has then I think Palace should try and sell him in the summer.

 


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