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 steeleye20  Croydon 16 Jan 24 2.05pm |
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Don't get your hopes up if you are awarded compensation after years have passed. It's another matter altogether to actually receive it. Fujitsu has ‘moral obligation’ to contribute to Post Office compensation, Europe boss says, as Alan Bates warns ‘people are dying waiting’. Windrush families are the most obvious example I can think of, the professions involved will have had no such difficulties.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jan 24 2.09pm |
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We own nothing to 'Windrush' or any other immigrant who ever came here. Nothing but an anti white shakedown. It's a complete leftist/liberal narrative and it's completely rejected by the actual right. Not the pathetic embarrassment to conservatism that currently 'officially' uses its name but has betrayed conservativism in this country at every turn in the name of careerism. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jan 2024 2.11pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 24 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
If the bulk of the Muslim community are not currently on the side of law and order, we would appear to have a very serious problem, given the number of Muslims in the country. Perhaps the bulk are on most things, in most areas but enough aren’t on some things in some areas for it to be a serious problem.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 24 2.23pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Not following the logic here. People believe their community is considered complicit when they don't come forward so they don't come forward thus making them complicit? 1. Aren't we all supposed to be British now? Or does that only apply to rights not responsibilities? It’s a viscous circle. How it started is less important than how we stop it. You would need to ask a police expert to know how much they rely on community information but with resources over stretched I suspect it will be quite significant. Without inside information on who the perpetrators are and facing walls of silence it must be pretty difficult to gather evidence.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 24 2.38pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I dislike that grifting cokehead as much as anyone, but I struggle to criticise him on this topic - whether his concern on the matter was 'serious' or opportunistic or whatever else, is largely irrelevant - he was on the right side of this, and the authorities weren't. Most criticism I have seen of the police on this topic are entirely justified, and then some. I disagree. He was never on the right side. He has a much bigger anti-Islam agenda he is following and the grooming scandal was seen as an opportunity by him to promote it. He wasn’t at all interested in the victims as evidenced by the total lack of support he gave them. This was simply a way to wind people up. Not any genuine concern.
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Teddy Eagle  16 Jan 24 2.44pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It’s a viscous circle. How it started is less important than how we stop it. You would need to ask a police expert to know how much they rely on community information but with resources over stretched I suspect it will be quite significant. Without inside information on who the perpetrators are and facing walls of silence it must be pretty difficult to gather evidence. I'm sure it's difficult but that's kind of their job. They even call them detectives.
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| Teddy Eagle 16 Jan 24 2.49pm |
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Also the understaffing issue has been addressed.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 16 Jan 24 2.50pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I disagree. He was never on the right side. He has a much bigger anti-Islam agenda he is following and the grooming scandal was seen as an opportunity by him to promote it. He wasn’t at all interested in the victims as evidenced by the total lack of support he gave them. This was simply a way to wind people up. Not any genuine concern. As I said originally, his motives are largely irrelevant - I don’t disagree that he saw opportunity in it, but ultimately he increased exposure and publicity around a situation which needed exactly that.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jan 24 4.01pm |
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I'm not that much of a Robinson fan but I'm confused by the charge that Robinson didn't give victims any support. ? Is Robinson a multi millionaire or something? He was shouting about these abuses while the establishment that this poster defends was both enabling these crimes and suppressing action against them. Deaths happened, a father was arrested trying to take his girl away from these rape gangs. Yet Robinson is the bad guy here? These were vulnerable girls preyed on and anyone who fought that deserves praise for it whatever their politics. It goes to show just how bad and rotten it is with some people. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jan 2024 4.03pm)
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 16 Jan 24 5.21pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Deaths happened, a father was arrested trying to take his girl away from these rape gangs. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jan 2024 4.03pm) our politicians hate us.
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| Teddy Eagle 16 Jan 24 5.31pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm not that much of a Robinson fan but I'm confused by the charge that Robinson didn't give victims any support. ? Is Robinson a multi millionaire or something? He was shouting about these abuses while the establishment that this poster defends was both enabling these crimes and suppressing action against them. Deaths happened, a father was arrested trying to take his girl away from these rape gangs. Yet Robinson is the bad guy here? These were vulnerable girls preyed on and anyone who fought that deserves praise for it whatever their politics. It goes to show just how bad and rotten it is with some people. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jan 2024 4.03pm) It's because even though the police have subsequently admitted their failures in these cases Robinson might have jeopardised an elaborate covert investigation. Had one actually been happening.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jan 24 6.00pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
our politicians hate us. I think Starmer said he preferred Davos to his own parliament. The modern elite became more and more disconnected from the masses the more techology enabled them to. They are the new aristocracy and have much the same level of contempt for those they rule over as the old......in fact it's worse because at least with the old aristocracy if their country fell they fell as well.....but today these people have no connection and there is 'no in it together'. I remember May calling them, 'citizens of nowhere'. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jan 2024 6.01pm)
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