My Chelsea supporting brother in law was slagging brentford off recently after they won 2-0 at the bridge. He was giving it the old park the bus and anti football bollocks. Without saying it, he was also having a little dig at us. So obviously I reminded him the likes of us and Brentford can’t compete with a billion pound in spending and have to compensate. If Brentford had gone all out attacking football and tried to be more entertaining even this average Chelsea team would’ve wiped the floor with them. I doubt Brentford fans came away from the bridge thinking blimey that was a boring performance

I also reminded him that Mourinho didn’t exactly play total football at Chelsea, but it was effective and they were winners, obviously Chelsea fans didn’t care because they were winning every week

So basically no one gives a monkeys about the style of play as long as you’re winning, we wiped the floor with Leeds up there last season, but at the time before the game we would’ve taken a dull 0-1 win.

We are boring a lot of the time under Roy and it can be frustrating when we watch the team sitting back and showing teams too much respect, but if we do get a result, do we care? Course we don’t, it’s only a problem if we’re boring, sit back and still end up losing

In the final 18 months of Roy's last tenure even when we won it often didn't feel like it so dire was the football. Most people had had enough and so Roy left. Given on average we only win about a third of our games that problem is always likely to raise its ugly head.

To be fair you’re right, even some of the wins were grim, put I still say when I was walking up Whitehorse lane after a tergid 1-0 win I was quite happy. The problem comes when you don’t win a game like that. Also Roy’s last season we’d started to ship a lot of goals and we took some good hidings, also being outplayed by average/poor sides so his time was definitely up.

Sure this is football banter. I like to laugh at Millwall and Charlton just wish I could do the same for Brighton.

The point is that most of the fans outside of the PL would give their right arm to be boring Palace.

One more point

We are and it does. Have we not after a decade had enough of near unwatchable sufferball up here? Never mind pushing for top half or Europe or whatever (though the neglect of the cups remains a disgrace on the part of the club), the bare minimum should be us being enjoyable to watch and something to look forward to instead of allegedly having to sit in our box heading balls away for most of the game away at Burnley and Brentford.

I think this club takes the fans for granted and has settled into believing they can serve any old s*** up and get nothing back. You'd have hoped in Roy's last season when they were definitely told otherwise that they'd buck their ideas up but apparently not, we are treated to one more season of crap on the pitch and off it before they pretend to us that they'll have a go next summer with a shiny new manager who Parish will have lied to

Football has become boring generally. There's not a scratch of romance left and Man City and Pep Guardiola one of the most boring teams to watch of all.