Imagine you are walking through a supermarket car-park. You witness a violent row between two people. Walk away. Don't get yourself stabbed for a fight you probably do not even need to understand.

such is the current situation.....Palestine, the Left, Israel, the Right....

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

The move towards the Right in much of Europe is driven by different pressures to those here in the UK but all underpinned by the same utterly baffling hypocrisy of the Left continent-wide when it comes to Islam.

By ANY kind of measure, then the Left should be diametrically opposed to any kind of growth in Muslim populations in the West. Islam is a belief system that in almost any and every conceivable way at odds with every tenet of Left wing ideology. Far, far more socially Conservative than any extreme 'far Right' Western ideology.

And yet they champion them at the expense of the native population of Europe. Literal insanity that has no rational explanation.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

To some extent then yes, very much so. But given my own (potentially rabid) conspiracy theory about how ALL of this current shenanigans is linked to a wider plan to effectively see a mass transfer of the Palestinian people from the Middle East to the West, then it actually is our fight.

Just not the ludicrous and clearly stage-managed hysteria of yesterday although I suspect this to part of that plan as what it does is present a narrative that it is 'Far-Right' to oppose these marches and when, by default, we are presented with the fact that Europe is expected to absorb 2-3 million 'refugees', then to oppose similar will be portrayed as a sign of being some kind of proponent of full-on Neo-Nazism.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

One of the biggest ironies of the current state of politics is that there seems to be a lot of contact between Right-wing activists from the UK and the Republic now than ever before with shared appreciation/support of the real problem.

How the Left have managed to become a genuine shared enemy that now transcends (or at least helps negate) any kind of old historical animosities (albeit outside of the usual sordid s*** in the north which strikes me more about control of the drugs trade than any kind of theological debates) will be studied in years and decades to come.

In fact, the links and bonds being formed across Europe now are truly encouraging and the notion of us all sharing far in common than that which separates us is perhaps a rare glimpse of hope in the current darkness.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Apologies I was under the impression you were a new member or have you just decided to join after reading the forum for years & wanted to join in the cut & thrust of debate or are you in fact either A/ Someone who is banned or B/ A flouncer

Pro USA & Israel

He's a BBS person. I'd put money on it.