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Mapletree Croydon 06 May 23 8.58am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
My daughter has just won her seat for Labour on one of the Brighton wards. The shame of it Which ward? My son is at university there
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 May 23 9.13am | |
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Originally posted by the silurian
You keep banging on about Brexit, but if the terms of reentry included, amongst others, adopting the Euro do you think most people would vote for it?? No. Because no government in the UK would accept such terms and should they first decide to consult the people directly in an advisory referendum it would not therefore be an option.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 May 23 9.18am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
And the wisdom of letting these brainless oiks decide on who should be in parliament. These decisions should be left to clever people like MPs. That has to be done in a democracy. Even the brainless have a right to an opinion on who should represent them. We can though, of course, change our minds every 5 years. I would happily settle for the same deal on Brexit, if it was practical to do so, which it clearly isn't.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 May 23 9.20am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Many would have voted remain ! For stupid reasons!
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 May 23 9.22am | |
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Originally posted by YT
What the f*** has a 16th century proverb got to do with anything? What has 16th century got to do with it? It's as pertinent today as at any other time!
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cryrst The garden of England 06 May 23 9.53am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
For stupid reasons! I don’t understand your logic. You berate leavers but in other posts remainers are great. Did they need a reason? Clearly not had your meds Edited by cryrst (06 May 2023 9.53am)
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Teddy Eagle 06 May 23 9.54am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That has to be done in a democracy. Even the brainless have a right to an opinion on who should represent them. We can though, of course, change our minds every 5 years. I would happily settle for the same deal on Brexit, if it was practical to do so, which it clearly isn't. Must be brainless to vote for such incompetent and/or corrupt nonentities.
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YT Oxford 06 May 23 10.38am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What has 16th century got to do with it? It's as pertinent today as at any other time! Pertinent in what way?
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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 07 May 23 12.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No. Because no government in the UK would accept such terms and should they first decide to consult the people directly in an advisory referendum it would not therefore be an option. Who said anything about "advisory referendum'? Would be the same as the one you lost, in or out! IF it was a condition of entry would you vote in or out?
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footythoughts Beckenham 07 May 23 3.25pm | |
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Very predictable results considering how the past few years have gone. If people aren't willing to withhold their vote from a party they're being actively mugged off by through fear of another getting in, they ought realise that it's outlooks like that which bring about such zero accountability governance to begin with. There is definitely a good argument that how effective a party is locally should be the primary factor, but that makes the assumption that many councils are effective locally rather than are exceptions to the rule when they are. That and people have always used local elections to punish a party in power - and they share an outlook so that's understandable to a point anyway.
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steeleye20 Croydon 07 May 23 8.15pm | |
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Labour look to be cheeky with their claim that they have are onn track for a majority, but they may be right. It is not a given that the tories can recover, particularly in areas that were not traditionally tory before the Johnson win. And people vote nationally in a general election, the libdems may lose seats to labour, not the conservatives. And its been so long with the conservatives, their ministers on Kuessenburg trot out tired old failed policies, police powers and small boats who cares? They say they will halve inflation, but it going to happen anyway.
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Matov 09 May 23 5.36pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Labour look to be cheeky with their claim that they have are onn track for a majority, but they may be right. It is not a given that the tories can recover, particularly in areas that were not traditionally tory before the Johnson win. And people vote nationally in a general election, the libdems may lose seats to labour, not the conservatives. And its been so long with the conservatives, their ministers on Kuessenburg trot out tired old failed policies, police powers and small boats who cares? They say they will halve inflation, but it going to happen anyway.
Wondering if this might be the preferred outcomes for the people pulling Starmers strings? Will give Starmer the excuse of having to acquiesce to the almost invariable Lib-Dem demand for us rejoining the EU, especially if they make a song and dance about it in the run-up to the actual election, especially given the tactical voting opportunities it might throw up (and that would make for some interesting data extrapolation in terms of what seats it might swing). What I still cannot get out of my head is how people claim that this is Labours most successful electoral showing since 1997. Especially since even with all the hype, Starmer still only got 35% of the vote compared to the 40 that Corbyn pulled in in the 2017 GE. But not my circus, not my monkeys.
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