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 Dubai Eagle  09 May 23 9.31am |
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If I was good enough at anything to be considered as the answer to a problem or situation for that kind of money for a few weeks work I would absolutely dive in & wouldn't care if people thought I was being a mercenary & I suspect many others would do the same. Mercenaries largely only exist because there are problems to solve & they present sometimes almost unique skills to reach a positive outcome. Additionally, I saw something recently where it was saying that Roy said, in an interview on talk sport with Simon Jordan (or as a response to something that Simon had said) Roy was the one who told Palace that with a couple months left of the season he didn't want to renew his contract -but in essence it doesn't substantially change the point of the question. Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Reading this and other threads about Sam Allardyce he is perceived to be a mercenary and only took this job because of the money on offer. I wonder if the same people that view him as a mercenary also view Roy Hodgson in a similar vein as having been told that his contract wouldn't be renewed he received a phone call from our chairman in desperation for him to come back and save the club from the dreaded drop. I'm guessing that Hodgson isn't working for nothing so does that make him a mercenary too?
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| palace99 New Mills 09 May 23 9.47am |
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Originally posted by Elpis
We will see how much of this fireman sam myth was down to Sammy Lee ,Allardyce's no 2 for as long as I can remember Apparently Lee is on jury service and the judge wouldnt let him off as he had signed up for a longish case . Allardyce has had to phone round for help and settled on Carl Robinson former clown and sacked by Oxford a couple of months back All in all I dont think their odds on staying up have changed much , they will be in the last day dogfight and need to beat Spurs at home to have a chance Sammy Lee is his 'cone' man. Does what he is asks and organises the training sessions.
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 09 May 23 9.57am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Reading this and other threads about Sam Allardyce he is perceived to be a mercenary and only took this job because of the money on offer. I wonder if the same people that view him as a mercenary also view Roy Hodgson in a similar vein as having been told that his contract wouldn't be renewed he received a phone call from our chairman in desperation for him to come back and save the club from the dreaded drop. I'm guessing that Hodgson isn't working for nothing so does that make him a mercenary too? I find the notion of anyone being labelled a 'mercenary' in football these days quite amusing. Allardyce's frequent job hopping might put him more readily in the firing line however in a sport which is now dominated by and therefore a gateway to ludicrous money are we meant to believe all other managers, players and others navigate their careers based on loyalty, sentiment and some sort of unwritten moral code they are 'supposed' to follow? It's a bit like the ultimate job interview question - 'Why would you like this role/to work here?'. More money, I'd like more money please and this seemed like a vacancy I might have a possibility of being successful in landing... for more money than I am currently receiving'. Is Wilf a non-mercenary or just a terrible one who didn't find success in that venture, for one example?
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| eaglesdare 09 May 23 10.46am |
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Lets be honest if we were in big sams shoes we would all do the same.
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| Midlands Eagle 09 May 23 11.05am |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Is Wilf a non-mercenary or just a terrible one who didn't find success in that venture, for one example? It depends on whether the rumours are true that Wilf might sign a new contract if we pay him £200,000 per week
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| Elpis In a pub 09 May 23 1.26pm |
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Originally posted by palace99
Sammy Lee is his 'cone' man. Does what he is asks and organises the training sessions. The managers no 2 is an important part of the backroom staff . Just because he wasnt a very good manager (Lewington comes to mind) doesn't mean all he is worth is putting out the cones . Lots of managers have lost their way over the years when seperated from their mate .
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| Midlands Eagle 09 May 23 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by Elpis
Lots of managers have lost their way over the years when seperated from their mate . Brian Clough and Peter Taylor being one excellent example
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cryrst  The garden of England 09 May 23 7.33pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
It depends on whether the rumours are true that Wilf might sign a new contract if we pay him £200,000 per week Tbh 12 million for wilf per year for 5 years is really a bargain. No transfer fee or agent fees. 1 decent game in 2 or 3 does it for me. Try getting a player all in like wilf for 5 years at that rate. Cost alone is that minimum without wages.
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| MrRobbo Chaldon 10 May 23 10.23am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Tbh 12 million for wilf per year for 5 years is really a bargain. No transfer fee or agent fees. 1 decent game in 2 or 3 does it for me. Try getting a player all in like wilf for 5 years at that rate. Cost alone is that minimum without wages. I'd agree....but he's 30 now. Is he going to be the same Wilf at 34/35? Or will he be a 200k a week millstone I'm sure he'll get some good offered elsewhere, but I cant imagine there would be anyone who would offer a 5 year deal
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| steeleye20 Croydon 13 May 23 1.41pm |
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Bamford penalty saved, Leeds would have been 2 up. Newcastle then equalise from the spot. Never mind Sam, pick up your musket.
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| YT Oxford 13 May 23 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Bamford penalty saved, Leeds would have been 2 up. Newcastle then equalise from the spot. Never mind Sam, pick up your musket.
But not your £2.5m bonus... probably.
Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes) |
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| cryrst The garden of England 14 May 23 5.00am |
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Originally posted by YT
But not your £2.5m bonus... probably. Depending on the games today and tomorrow if Leeds win at West Ham they could be safe and that dough would be a snip to Leeds. Never had an issue with Sam tbh.
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