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Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 03 May 23 9.29am
Originally posted by Badger11 I have similar feelings. I am actually a republican my friend is what I would call hard left but neither of us have a problem organising a tea party for our neighbours who are staunch royalists. I actually don't care about Charles or Camilla but she deserves to be Queen I know many hate her because of Diana but that lady had plenty of flaws, move on I say. Exactly. Rather like religious-based festivals (like Christmas), although I am not at all a believer I find it churlish to deliberately ignore what are basically social events. Also to steadfastedly boycott them is, in my book, to garner them with an underserved over-importance.
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Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 03 May 23 9.29am

Originally posted by Badger11

I have similar feelings.

I am actually a republican my friend is what I would call hard left but neither of us have a problem organising a tea party for our neighbours who are staunch royalists.

I actually don't care about Charles or Camilla but she deserves to be Queen I know many hate her because of Diana but that lady had plenty of flaws, move on I say.

Exactly. Rather like religious-based festivals (like Christmas), although I am not at all a believer I find it churlish to deliberately ignore what are basically social events. Also to steadfastedly boycott them is, in my book, to garner them with an underserved over-importance.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 03 May 23 9.50am
Oft repeated this week but I agree with the idea that people had tremendous respect for the Queen as a person rather than than the monarchy. That being said, why break a 1000 year old tradition, we have a long and rich history which is important for any country. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 03 May 23 9.50am

Oft repeated this week but I agree with the idea that people had tremendous respect for the Queen as a person rather than than the monarchy.

That being said, why break a 1000 year old tradition, we have a long and rich history which is important for any country.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 03 May 23 10.12am
Originally posted by HKOwen Was there a few weeks ago, trio of pasta, the simple yet superb mortadella and 32 month parmesan and a nice bottle of lambrusco. We then headed to Simoni charcuterie to stock up. Watched the Leicester game in the nice cafe place opposite the station, the one with the atrium and souvenir shops.When the Mateta goal went in I was louder than us socially acceptable but they were very nice about it. Bologna for me is so much nicer then Florence, not so busy and packed with American tour groups Bologna is a wonderful city, i like both, more art to see in Florence, but plenty to see in Bologna and it is more compact around the Piazza Maggiore, lovely place, the Canal, the Towers and of course the Cathedral. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 03 May 23 10.12am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Was there a few weeks ago, trio of pasta, the simple yet superb mortadella and 32 month parmesan and a nice bottle of lambrusco.

We then headed to Simoni charcuterie to stock up.

Watched the Leicester game in the nice cafe place opposite the station, the one with the atrium and souvenir shops.When the Mateta goal went in I was louder than us socially acceptable but they were very nice about it.

Bologna for me is so much nicer then Florence, not so busy and packed with American tour groups

Bologna is a wonderful city, i like both, more art to see in Florence, but plenty to see in Bologna and it is more compact around the Piazza Maggiore, lovely place, the Canal, the Towers and of course the Cathedral.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 03 May 23 2.12pm
Originally posted by HKOwen Oft repeated this week but I agree with the idea that people had tremendous respect for the Queen as a person rather than than the monarchy. That being said, why break a 1000 year old tradition, we have a long and rich history which is important for any country. British history, and in particular the Monarchy, brings in incredible amounts of tourism wonga.(pre-covid) I don't like the monarchy, but had tremendous respect for QE2. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (03 May 2023 2.14pm) I disengage, I turn the page.
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Originally posted by HKOwen

Oft repeated this week but I agree with the idea that people had tremendous respect for the Queen as a person rather than than the monarchy.

That being said, why break a 1000 year old tradition, we have a long and rich history which is important for any country.

British history, and in particular the Monarchy, brings in incredible amounts of tourism wonga.(pre-covid)
I don't like the monarchy, but had tremendous respect for QE2.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (03 May 2023 2.14pm)

I disengage, I turn the page.

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steeleye20 Croydon 03 May 23 2.34pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Bologna is a wonderful city, i like both, more art to see in Florence, but plenty to see in Bologna and it is more compact around the Piazza Maggiore, lovely place, the Canal, the Towers and of course the Cathedral. I love Bologna. Firstly they will kill you even if you mention spaghetti. The cathedral overlooks the city and has giant steps you can take I remember we ran down them so happy together, half way down there was some noise and we looked over to see probably Bologna FC playing it was a Wednesday afternoon in November. At the bottom of the steps you are right in the centre. Everything totally delightful.
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Croydon 03 May 23 2.34pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I love Bologna.

Firstly they will kill you even if you mention spaghetti.

The cathedral overlooks the city and has giant steps you can take I remember we ran down them so happy together, half way down there was some noise and we looked over to see probably Bologna FC playing it was a Wednesday afternoon in November. At the
bottom of the steps you are right in the centre.

Everything totally delightful.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 03 May 23 2.49pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 I love Bologna. Firstly they will kill you even if you mention spaghetti. The cathedral overlooks the city and has giant steps you can take I remember we ran down them so happy together, half way down there was some noise and we looked over to see probably Bologna FC playing it was a Wednesday afternoon in November. At the bottom of the steps you are right in the centre. Everything totally delightful. Massive train station too! 'Twas like an airport if I remember correctly, where there is a very good chance I do not! Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 03 May 23 2.49pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

I love Bologna.

Firstly they will kill you even if you mention spaghetti.

Everything totally delightful.

Massive train station too! 'Twas like an airport if I remember correctly, where there is a very good chance I do not!

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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PalazioVecchio south pole 03 May 23 3.07pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly I don't like the monarchy, but had tremendous respect for QE2. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (03 May 2023 2.14pm) i suspect that even the old 'RA heads of the Falls Road secretly liked QE2. An amicable granny type character. Certainly a lot more cuddly than Thatcher. regarding Patriotism...... it gets complex when there is a debate about whose nation, whose country. In Madrid, the Basques are seen as Spanish. In the Basque country, its a bit more complex. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I don't like the monarchy, but had tremendous respect for QE2.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (03 May 2023 2.14pm)

i suspect that even the old 'RA heads of the Falls Road secretly liked QE2. An amicable granny type character. Certainly a lot more cuddly than Thatcher.

regarding Patriotism...... it gets complex when there is a debate about whose nation, whose country.

In Madrid, the Basques are seen as Spanish. In the Basque country, its a bit more complex.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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steeleye20 Croydon 03 May 23 3.43pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Bologna is a wonderful city, i like both, more art to see in Florence, but plenty to see in Bologna and it is more compact around the Piazza Maggiore, lovely place, the Canal, the Towers and of course the Cathedral. Whatever sins Bologna has committed they are forgiven over a glass or two of grappa.
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Croydon 03 May 23 3.43pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Whatever sins Bologna has committed they are forgiven over a glass or two of grappa.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 03 May 23 11.38pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 I love Bologna. Firstly they will kill you even if you mention spaghetti. The cathedral overlooks the city and has giant steps you can take I remember we ran down them so happy together, half way down there was some noise and we looked over to see probably Bologna FC playing it was a Wednesday afternoon in November. At the bottom of the steps you are right in the centre. Everything totally delightful. How's your reply on support for the EHRC report on anti semitism and condemnation of the Guardian cartoon coming along? Edited by HKOwen (04 May 2023 12.20am) Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 03 May 23 11.38pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

I love Bologna.

Firstly they will kill you even if you mention spaghetti.

Everything totally delightful.

How's your reply on support for the EHRC report on anti semitism and condemnation of the Guardian cartoon coming along?

Edited by HKOwen (04 May 2023 12.20am)

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 06 May 23 2.14pm
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" - Dr Samuel Johnson. As true today as when the great man first said it. Edited by Cucking Funt (06 May 2023 2.14pm) Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 06 May 23 2.14pm

"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" - Dr Samuel Johnson.

As true today as when the great man first said it.

Edited by Cucking Funt (06 May 2023 2.14pm)

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Badger11 Beckenham 06 May 23 2.24pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" - Dr Samuel Johnson. As true today as when the great man first said it. Edited by Cucking Funt (06 May 2023 2.14pm) Ralph Waldo Emerson on a politician he invited to dinner. “The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.” I think that still applied today. One more point
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Beckenham 06 May 23 2.24pm