We don't have crap ownership.

We have a combination of:
1. Intelligent investors in the US who want to make sure their investment makes them a return. When funds were needed to support the club they were provided BUT neither Harris nor Blitzer are in the business of being sugar daddies who will throw their wealth away on expensive players so we fans can say how great they are.

2. An American investor who wants to build an international football franchise and whose money put into the club helped fund our Summer 21 buying spree but who probably sees Lyon as his most promising asset as they are likely to attain European qualification. Whether we will benefit in future from being part of Textor's growing empire is a moot point, I remain on the fence on that one but that doesn't make him a crap owner given that his initial investment probably saved us from relegation last season.

3. A UK chairman who also happens to be a fan but who isn't wealthy when compared to the mega wealth owners of most other PL clubs. He does. though, have the club's long term future in mind and will try to ensure we don't go into administration again.

There are disadvantages with all three of the above, but that doesn't make them crap owners.

Consequently, I'm happy for the HF to continue what they're good at - namely supporting our club both home and away.

Edited by doombear (25 Apr 2023 12.51pm)

Edited by doombear (25 Apr 2023 12.53pm)

How's your protesting going? Or are you an all mouth no action "pussy"?

Not that I am supporting or even condoning other posters however some of the criticisms of the HF may be:

- They do look as though they are trying to emulate the likes of Italian Ultras and therefore may be perceived as trying to 'act hard' which at worst is not a great association for the club and at best a bit silly if not just embarrassing.
- They are often cited as being in cahoots with or in support of Parish and therefore receive favourable treatment from the club which can cause umbrage.
- Rumours of away travelling coaches turning them around for bad behaviour and rife drug taking.
- Them on occasions 'turfing' other fans out from what they perceive as entitled seating.
- They bang a drum and sing jaunty, carry on-esque songs.

I have no idea as to the truth in some of these and it rarely sounds as though others honestly do. I have not sat in the Holmesdale for about 7 years now so my interaction and therefore knowledge of them is nonexistent.

From my personal experience, I think they have done wonders to generate an atmosphere at Selhurst Park which whilst very speculative, I would be inclined to suggest may have even contributed towards our staying in the PL so long. I have also enjoyed the occasional 'TIFO' etc attempts.

My personal and subjective opinion would be that sometimes they leave us open for ridicule with their antics, in being a very poor 'proper ultras' tribute act and you can't help but feel an associated embarrassment when other fans take the p!ss. There is also an inferred if not intentional view of them trying to act intimidating or tough, and if aggressive behaviour is directed towards fellow fans I strongly oppose. Fans fighting each other is however the ultimate embarrassment and source of anger for me, should have no place at any club let alone ours, and if they are contributing or participating in this it drives them down in my estimations, which I am sure they are dying to know. Occasionally I think we are lucky to have them, on others I often think it's a 'bunch of mollycoddled middle class boys who are badly emulating that they have seen through media', for lack of articulation, and a separate entity to the Palace fan base as I know it. I have to say I long stopped really caring however.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

You lot are scared of the HF dont want to upset them.

North Stand Chat show more passion than you lot.

I will also ask you, have you ever been in the section? I suggest you do before spouting this drivel. I'll take you.

Perhaps he already does