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Mapletree Croydon 11 Jul 22 2.12pm
Originally posted by cryrst Nah your just not a real lefty like maple That is Maple to you.
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Mapletree

Croydon 11 Jul 22 2.12pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Nah your just not a real lefty like maple

That is Maple to you.

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Grumbles 11 Jul 22 2.21pm
Originally posted by Mapletree That is Maple to you. or Mr Tree.
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Grumbles 11 Jul 22 2.21pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

That is Maple to you.

or Mr Tree.

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steeleye20 Croydon 11 Jul 22 2.27pm
Tax cuts yes or no. Has to be the winner, Truss is leading the throng. Of course they all voted Sunak's tax hikes through but that's politics.
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Croydon 11 Jul 22 2.27pm

Tax cuts yes or no.

Has to be the winner, Truss is leading the throng.

Of course they all voted Sunak's tax hikes through but that's politics.

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Mapletree Croydon 11 Jul 22 2.39pm
Originally posted by Grumbles or Mr Tree. Or indeed Mr Aple, Plet, Letr or Etre To be or not to be... Edited by Mapletree (11 Jul 2022 2.40pm)
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Croydon 11 Jul 22 2.39pm

Originally posted by Grumbles

or Mr Tree.

Or indeed Mr Aple, Plet, Letr or Etre

To be or not to be...

Edited by Mapletree (11 Jul 2022 2.40pm)

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Spiderman Horsham 11 Jul 22 3.17pm
Originally posted by cryrst And what job are these nurses moving on to then? Hopefully a better one but I doubt it has a pension that a state worker gets. This is very under discussed but very relevant in why the wages are a bit lower than private employment. I think you may be surprised as to how low the average CS pension is. Depends totally on your salary and years of service. The scheme I was on, your pension was 1/80th of your salary for every year service, so after 40 years you got 50% of salary. The new scheme is based on career earnings and no lump sum. I also found out when I retired that CS had opted me out of some NI Contributions, still not sure I understand this but I have been paying lump sums every year since I retired to ensure I got full state pension. Having started work at 16, in 1972 and paid my last lump sum in 2022, that’s a lot of years NI Edited by Spiderman (11 Jul 2022 3.24pm) Edited by Spiderman (11 Jul 2022 3.25pm)
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Horsham 11 Jul 22 3.17pm

Originally posted by cryrst

And what job are these nurses moving on to then?
Hopefully a better one but I doubt it has a pension that a state worker gets. This is very under discussed but very relevant in why the wages are a bit lower than private employment.

I think you may be surprised as to how low the average CS pension is. Depends totally on your salary and years of service.
The scheme I was on, your pension was 1/80th of your salary for every year service, so after 40 years you got 50% of salary. The new scheme is based on career earnings and no lump sum.
I also found out when I retired that CS had opted me out of some NI Contributions, still not sure I understand this but I have been paying lump sums every year since I retired to ensure I got full state pension. Having started work at 16, in 1972 and paid my last lump sum in 2022, that’s a lot of years NI

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YT Oxford 11 Jul 22 4.10pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Or indeed Mr Aple, Plet, Letr or Etre To be or not to be... Edited by Mapletree (11 Jul 2022 2.40pm) Don't you mean:- To be to be or not to be... ? Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 11 Jul 22 4.10pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Or indeed Mr Aple, Plet, Letr or Etre

To be or not to be...

Edited by Mapletree (11 Jul 2022 2.40pm)

Don't you mean:-

To be to be or not to be...

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YT Oxford 11 Jul 22 4.20pm
Originally posted by Spiderman I think you may be surprised as to how low the average CS pension is. Depends totally on your salary and years of service. The scheme I was on, your pension was 1/80th of your salary for every year service, so after 40 years you got 50% of salary. The new scheme is based on career earnings and no lump sum. I also found out when I retired that CS had opted me out of some NI Contributions, still not sure I understand this but I have been paying lump sums every year since I retired to ensure I got full state pension. Having started work at 16, in 1972 and paid my last lump sum in 2022, that’s a lot of years NI Edited by Spiderman (11 Jul 2022 3.24pm) Edited by Spiderman (11 Jul 2022 3.25pm) I think you've forgotten the 3/80ths tax-free lump sum for every year of service on top of the pension ie 150% of salary after 40 years. Also, I do worry that you may have been wrongly-advised about needing to pay those "catch-up" NI contributions. Whereas you may well have been opted-out of the State Earnings Related Pension, and therefore you paid NI at less than the full rate, it's impossible to be opted out of basic state pension accrual. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 11 Jul 22 4.20pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I think you may be surprised as to how low the average CS pension is. Depends totally on your salary and years of service.
The scheme I was on, your pension was 1/80th of your salary for every year service, so after 40 years you got 50% of salary. The new scheme is based on career earnings and no lump sum.
I also found out when I retired that CS had opted me out of some NI Contributions, still not sure I understand this but I have been paying lump sums every year since I retired to ensure I got full state pension. Having started work at 16, in 1972 and paid my last lump sum in 2022, that’s a lot of years NI

Edited by Spiderman (11 Jul 2022 3.24pm)

Edited by Spiderman (11 Jul 2022 3.25pm)

I think you've forgotten the 3/80ths tax-free lump sum for every year of service on top of the pension ie 150% of salary after 40 years.

Also, I do worry that you may have been wrongly-advised about needing to pay those "catch-up" NI contributions. Whereas you may well have been opted-out of the State Earnings Related Pension, and therefore you paid NI at less than the full rate, it's impossible to be opted out of basic state pension accrual.

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Mapletree Croydon 11 Jul 22 4.33pm
Originally posted by YT I think you've forgotten the 3/80ths tax-free lump sum for every year of service on top of the pension ie 150% of salary after 40 years. Also, I do worry that you may have been wrongly-advised about needing to pay those "catch-up" NI contributions. Whereas you may well have been opted-out of the State Earnings Related Pension, and therefore you paid NI at less than the full rate, it's impossible to be opted out of basic state pension accrual. No. Topping up is extremely good value
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Croydon 11 Jul 22 4.33pm

Originally posted by YT

I think you've forgotten the 3/80ths tax-free lump sum for every year of service on top of the pension ie 150% of salary after 40 years.

No. Topping up is extremely good value

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YT Oxford 11 Jul 22 4.38pm
Originally posted by Mapletree No. Topping up is extremely good value Topping up what? Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 11 Jul 22 4.38pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

No. Topping up is extremely good value

Topping up what?

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cryrst The garden of England 11 Jul 22 4.40pm
Originally posted by Mapletree No. Topping up is extremely good value Depending if you will recoup what you pay. It could be 70£ a year for a grand top up. Ok if you live 15 years but a loss leader otherwise.
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cryrst

The garden of England 11 Jul 22 4.40pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

No. Topping up is extremely good value

Depending if you will recoup what you pay. It could be 70£ a year for a grand top up.
Ok if you live 15 years but a loss leader otherwise.

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cryrst The garden of England 11 Jul 22 4.42pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Watch these, then say that again. She is just so embarrassing. [Link] [Link] She also has single-handedly fecked UK agriculture by doing extremely poor deals with low welfare, low cost, low quality providers. Ask Useless Eustace, who is quite clear on that matter when not on camera. I suppose if she can feck all of us you could also feck her but not for me pal, I would definitely vomit shortly after starting. At your age the starting bit must be difficult enough! Only kidding maple I’m sure you a lion in the sack gggrrrrr
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The garden of England 11 Jul 22 4.42pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Watch these, then say that again. She is just so embarrassing.

[Link]

She also has single-handedly fecked UK agriculture by doing extremely poor deals with low welfare, low cost, low quality providers. Ask Useless Eustace, who is quite clear on that matter when not on camera.

I suppose if she can feck all of us you could also feck her but not for me pal, I would definitely vomit shortly after starting.

At your age the starting bit must be difficult enough!
Only kidding maple I’m sure you a lion in the sack gggrrrrr

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YT Oxford 11 Jul 22 4.59pm
Originally posted by cryrst At your age the starting bit must be difficult enough! Only kidding maple I’m sure you a lion in the sack gggrrrrr There's always 2 lolly sticks and a rubber band! Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 11 Jul 22 4.59pm

Originally posted by cryrst

At your age the starting bit must be difficult enough!
Only kidding maple I’m sure you a lion in the sack gggrrrrr

There's always 2 lolly sticks and a rubber band!

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