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YT Oxford 13 May 22 7.10pm | |
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Originally posted by stuckinbristol
There was, in the Eighties, quite a lot of 2nd homes getting burned down in Wales, hence the joke doing the rounds at the time. "Come home to a real fire...buy a holiday home in Wales" That joke was made by 'Not The Nine O'Clock News'. It was a parody of a TV advert of the time by British Coal. Yes, as recently as the late 70s/early 80s, coal was still being advertised on the telly!
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 May 22 10.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
And herein lies just one of the problems. How do you define 'local' ? There must be some definition used by Local Authorities/Governments. I am not aware of the detail of how it works in Guernsey, but believe the homes that are in each category were determined a long time ago. It's neither geographical or size. Only people born in Guernsey can buy closed market homes there. The little knowledge I have is because the ex-husband of my sister married his second wife, who was Guernsey born. They were both working for a stock-broker in the City and decamped to Guernsey where they bought a mansion in the closed market, overlooking the sea, and he set up as a broker there managing the funds of the rich and famous, "offshore". Footballers we all know and love are among his clients. To say he has done well, would be an understatement!
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 13 May 22 11.18pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I guess this is what is being reversed by work from home, but second homes are not adding anything much. Tourism, of course, is likely the mmain business of a lot of these areas. It's stupid to hassle the tourists and make them go somewhere else. I had a friend who was a staunch Cornish nationalist. He spoke Cornish, he was in the Royal Engineers, he had no problem saying what he thought of second homes. Edited by ASCPFC (13 May 2022 10.13am) I've probably mentioned this on another thread of which the topic I forget, but I was working in a well known Manhattan bar & It wasn't unusual as the bar was Irish owned & operated for customers to twist themselves into a knot & deny any English roots.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 13 May 22 11.22pm | |
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On a lighter note. Could this not be a perfect business opportunity for someone? Planning permission aside.
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Teddy Eagle 13 May 22 11.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
I've probably mentioned this on another thread of which the topic I forget, but I was working in a well known Manhattan bar & It wasn't unusual as the bar was Irish owned & operated for customers to twist themselves into a knot & deny any English roots. Lewishamerican ?
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Mapletree Croydon 13 May 22 11.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
I think, and it is only my opinion. That Cornwall has exploited itself as a holiday destination for many years. Todays situation has been brewing away, unchallenged, for decades. Wales was slightly different, that towns are areas, that although beautiful and scenic in their own right, also had working communities. Not just places like Newport and Port Talbot , but also large swathes of agriculture and rural infrastructure. And you can blames the Welshies for selling at high prices to people after a second home, but a lot of the local industries need protection, which is why the Welsh Government feels it had to step in. House prices were becoming unaffordable for Welsh workers, who if i'm brutally honest, can be poorly paid when compared to London, and other English cities. Wales is seeking to conserve it's rural heritage and dissuade holiday home use, whereas St Ive's is torn as it relies heavily on tourism for income to the area. Just my random thoughts. Happy to hear others There is a logical flaw here. Second homes is not tourism. Wales has both and benefits considerably from tourism. Perhaps it has fewer of the dis benefits as it isn’t as concentrated and has a longer season. Second homes in wales will pay triple council tax from next year. Tourist cottages pay no council tax at all. I agree that empty second homes is morally unjustified in areas where affordable housing is very hard to find.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 14 May 22 7.00am | |
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Perhaps comparison with Wales was quite unfair. Their are loads of routes into and out of Wales, for a start. Cornwall has three main roads, all linking with the M5. During the summer the queues of caravans on single-lane carriageways used to start on the A30, soon after it switched to the A303 near Stonehenge. I have no idea what the longer term solution would be. charging for toilets is akin to pl55ing in the wind. Years, or decades, of swerving the inevitable has led to the current situation. It needs firm local Authority stewarding to strike the right balance, but they'll be scared of losing businesses and revenue. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (14 May 2022 7.05am)
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Teddy Eagle 14 May 22 9.05am | |
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Since the Cornish consider themselves so separate isn't it racism objecting to "outsiders" buying property whatever they do with it?
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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 14 May 22 10.00am | |
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Talking of Cornwall, you may have seen the story about a 150 yr old pub, The Star, in the Cornish village of Vogue. It's being asked to avoid using the name Vogue by the magazine of the same name. Bloomin' bonkers. Here's the BBC's take on it.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 14 May 22 10.05am | |
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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer
Talking of Cornwall, you may have seen the story about a 150 yr old pub, The Star, in the Cornish village of Vogue. It's being asked to avoid using the name Vogue by the magazine of the same name. Bloomin' bonkers. Here's the BBC's take on it. The cynic in me,..or perhaps realist, would say the pub was in need of publicity and they knew someone in the press to get it sorted.
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Eaglecoops CR3 14 May 22 10.31am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am not aware of the detail of how it works in Guernsey, but believe the homes that are in each category were determined a long time ago. It's neither geographical or size. Only people born in Guernsey can buy closed market homes there. The little knowledge I have is because the ex-husband of my sister married his second wife, who was Guernsey born. They were both working for a stock-broker in the City and decamped to Guernsey where they bought a mansion in the closed market, overlooking the sea, and he set up as a broker there managing the funds of the rich and famous, "offshore". Footballers we all know and love are among his clients. To say he has done well, would be an understatement! So they are effectively the most racist area in Europe, actively alienating anyone who wasn’t born there. Can you imagine trying to do that here, the wokeys would have a field day?
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 May 22 11.29am | |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
On a lighter note. Could this not be a perfect business opportunity for someone? Planning permission aside. Have a look at the link I posted earlier. I'm living in Ireland - there are basically very limited public amenities. There are private, luxury toilets now. 3.50 a poo.
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