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southnorwoodhill 06 Apr 22 8.51pm
If CG were to come on the market any bid we made would be bettered by any number of other moneybags suitors. That's reality. No one knows what is going on at Chelsea so all talk is speculation. Put a price on him - 50/60m?
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06 Apr 22 8.51pm

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If CG were to come on the market any bid we made would be bettered by any number of other moneybags suitors. That's reality.
No one knows what is going on at Chelsea so all talk is speculation.
Put a price on him - 50/60m?

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martin2412 Living The Dream 06 Apr 22 8.56pm
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill If CG were to come on the market any bid we made would be bettered by any number of other moneybags suitors. That's reality. No one knows what is going on at Chelsea so all talk is speculation. Put a price on him - 50/60m? But it's not all about the pricetag. The player would have a say in where he wants to go, and if Palace met Chelsea's valuation then we may be in the box seat.
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Living The Dream 06 Apr 22 8.56pm

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

But it's not all about the pricetag.

The player would have a say in where he wants to go, and if Palace met Chelsea's valuation then we may be in the box seat.

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southnorwoodhill 06 Apr 22 9.02pm
Originally posted by martin2412 But it's not all about the pricetag. The player would have a say in where he wants to go, and if Palace met Chelsea's valuation then we may be in the box seat. Would he? I'm not in the know regarding CG's current contract with Chelsea.
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06 Apr 22 9.02pm

Originally posted by martin2412

But it's not all about the pricetag.

The player would have a say in where he wants to go, and if Palace met Chelsea's valuation then we may be in the box seat.

Would he? I'm not in the know regarding CG's current contract with Chelsea.

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Croydon-Trucker 06 Apr 22 9.05pm
Originally posted by martin2412 But it's not all about the pricetag. The player would have a say in where he wants to go, and if Palace met Chelsea's valuation then we may be in the box seat. Correct, and if there is a buy out clause in his contract ( does anyone know?) and we meet it the player will have a big say . obviously money talks and a footballers career is short, then he has to make as much as he can and if Spewcastle offer him 200k per week then id say goodbye to him and good luck. He doesnt come across as greedy . I could be wrong . Hope not .
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06 Apr 22 9.05pm

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Originally posted by martin2412

But it's not all about the pricetag.

The player would have a say in where he wants to go, and if Palace met Chelsea's valuation then we may be in the box seat.

Correct, and if there is a buy out clause in his contract ( does anyone know?) and we meet it the player will have a big say . obviously money talks and a footballers career is short, then he has to make as much as he can and if Spewcastle offer him 200k per week then id say goodbye to him and good luck. He doesnt come across as greedy . I could be wrong . Hope not .

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Brinscalleagle2 Brinscall 06 Apr 22 9.54pm
Originally posted by sydtheeagle My take is that Chelsea has two questions to answer. First, do they want Connor for the long run, and second do they want him immediately? My guess is that the answer to the first question is, right now, "yes" and the answer to the second one is less clear. If he's in their first team plans for next season then the answer will be "yes", bring him back now". If, on the other hand, he's seen as a fringe player for next season who's still a year away from being a full-time first-teamer, then the answer will be "not sure", in which case they might conclude that his development into a first team player is better served by another productive loan. And there's nowhere better to do that than Palace. I'm sure Connor himself would agree. Further, I would guess they probably haven't totally decided where he would fit in next season yet, and they probably won't until June/July. Taking all of the above into account, I'd say the chances he'll stay at Chelsea next season are probably roughly 50% right now. The chances that he'll come to us for another year's loan are probably around 20%. And the chances that Chelsea will sell him outright are less than 15%. If they do simply sell him, I'd say we have at least a shot at getting him although I'd imagine Spurs, Arsenal, and Man Utd would all be in with a bid. West Ham and Newcastle doubtless would too, but I'm not worried about them. You suggest that they want him for the long term but maybe less clear for the now. I would suggest there is a more clear cut decision to be made. Gallagher has demonstrated clearly that he has the qualities to play in the Premier league so it is straight forward he needs no further testing of his qualities it is just a case of does he fit the current Chelsea manager’s style or not. If not the business angle comes into play and there will not be a better time for the club to cash in on the interest he has created by his performances for Palace. I do not see any further loans . What they decide will depend on the new owners and the Manager all we can do is hope but don’t hold your breath. COYP
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Originally posted by sydtheeagle

My take is that Chelsea has two questions to answer. First, do they want Connor for the long run, and second do they want him immediately? My guess is that the answer to the first question is, right now, "yes" and the answer to the second one is less clear. If he's in their first team plans for next season then the answer will be "yes", bring him back now". If, on the other hand, he's seen as a fringe player for next season who's still a year away from being a full-time first-teamer, then the answer will be "not sure", in which case they might conclude that his development into a first team player is better served by another productive loan. And there's nowhere better to do that than Palace. I'm sure Connor himself would agree. Further, I would guess they probably haven't totally decided where he would fit in next season yet, and they probably won't until June/July.

Taking all of the above into account, I'd say the chances he'll stay at Chelsea next season are probably roughly 50% right now. The chances that he'll come to us for another year's loan are probably around 20%. And the chances that Chelsea will sell him outright are less than 15%. If they do simply sell him, I'd say we have at least a shot at getting him although I'd imagine Spurs, Arsenal, and Man Utd would all be in with a bid. West Ham and Newcastle doubtless would too, but I'm not worried about them.

You suggest that they want him for the long term but maybe less clear for the now.
I would suggest there is a more clear cut decision to be made. Gallagher has demonstrated clearly that he has the qualities to play in the Premier league so it is straight forward he needs no further testing of his qualities it is just a case of does he fit the current Chelsea manager’s style or not. If not the business angle comes into play and there will not be a better time for the club to cash in on the interest he has created by his performances for Palace. I do not see any further loans . What they decide will depend on the new owners and the Manager all we can do is hope but don’t hold your breath. COYP

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 06 Apr 22 10.08pm
Originally posted by Brinscalleagle2 You suggest that they want him for the long term but maybe less clear for the now. I would suggest there is a more clear cut decision to be made. Gallagher has demonstrated clearly that he has the qualities to play in the Premier league so it is straight forward he needs no further testing of his qualities it is just a case of does he fit the current Chelsea manager’s style or not. If not the business angle comes into play and there will not be a better time for the club to cash in on the interest he has created by his performances for Palace. I do not see any further loans . What they decide will depend on the new owners and the Manager all we can do is hope but don’t hold your breath. COYP Your point has some validity. However, if the new owners are looking to bring in some money from player sales, are they not more likely to sell older players on high wages - especially as Tuchel (if he remains after tonight's CL result and if Chelsea lose to us in the cup) appears to be keen on including Conor in his plans for next year?
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Too far from Selhurst Park 06 Apr 22 10.08pm

Originally posted by Brinscalleagle2

Your point has some validity. However, if the new owners are looking to bring in some money from player sales, are they not more likely to sell older players on high wages - especially as Tuchel (if he remains after tonight's CL result and if Chelsea lose to us in the cup) appears to be keen on including Conor in his plans for next year?

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Brinscalleagle2 Brinscall 06 Apr 22 10.37pm
Originally posted by doombear Your point has some validity. However, if the new owners are looking to bring in some money from player sales, are they not more likely to sell older players on high wages - especially as Tuchel (if he remains after tonight's CL result and if Chelsea lose to us in the cup) appears to be keen on including Conor in his plans for next year? I guess it will depend on if they want to bring in more money or improve the quality of the team. It is any one’s guess but regretfully I am not hopeful we will see Gallagher playing for us next season but you never know we may end up unearthing another gem from somewhere else.COYP
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Brinscall 06 Apr 22 10.37pm

Originally posted by doombear

I guess it will depend on if they want to bring in more money or improve the quality of the team. It is any one’s guess but regretfully I am not hopeful we will see Gallagher playing for us next season but you never know we may end up unearthing another gem from somewhere else.COYP

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pssguy 07 Apr 22 12.56am
Originally posted by Brinscalleagle2 You suggest that they want him for the long term but maybe less clear for the now. I would suggest there is a more clear cut decision to be made. Gallagher has demonstrated clearly that he has the qualities to play in the Premier league so it is straight forward he needs no further testing of his qualities it is just a case of does he fit the current Chelsea manager’s style or not. If not the business angle comes into play and there will not be a better time for the club to cash in on the interest he has created by his performances for Palace. I do not see any further loans . What they decide will depend on the new owners and the Manager all we can do is hope but don’t hold your breath. COYP I agree with you. The only proviso is if they charge something like 15 million loan fee or Gallagher pushes hard for a renewed contract. He's obviously worth 5x what he is earning
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07 Apr 22 12.56am

Originally posted by Brinscalleagle2

You suggest that they want him for the long term but maybe less clear for the now.
I would suggest there is a more clear cut decision to be made. Gallagher has demonstrated clearly that he has the qualities to play in the Premier league so it is straight forward he needs no further testing of his qualities it is just a case of does he fit the current Chelsea manager’s style or not. If not the business angle comes into play and there will not be a better time for the club to cash in on the interest he has created by his performances for Palace. I do not see any further loans . What they decide will depend on the new owners and the Manager all we can do is hope but don’t hold your breath. COYP

I agree with you. The only proviso is if they charge something like 15 million loan fee or Gallagher pushes hard for a renewed contract. He's obviously worth 5x what he is earning

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CT Charlie 07 Apr 22 1.38am
The only reason that Chelsea would sell him to us rather than a rich club who'd easily outbid us, is because Chelsea thinks he would help us HURT some of their competitive rivals. As a member of the England squad, though, Conor is surely a player whom TT and the new ownership group would want to see wearing a Chelsea kit.
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CT Charlie

07 Apr 22 1.38am

The only reason that Chelsea would sell him to us rather than a rich club who'd easily outbid us, is because Chelsea thinks he would help us HURT some of their competitive rivals.

As a member of the England squad, though, Conor is surely a player whom TT and the new ownership group would want to see wearing a Chelsea kit.

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Wilbraham413 07 Apr 22 3.06am
I still think Gallagher would struggle for playing time at Chelsea next season. Starring for us is different than being a productive regular in one of the top sides in the world. The same could be said for Zaha. I know professional footballers want to play with the best, but at the same time, there's something to be said for being a legend at a regular club, rather than sitting on the bench of a big six club. As long as the money is comparable. 2017 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Middlesboro 2018 Jan. (Sako) Palace 1 - 0 Burnley 2019 May (Batshuayi, Batshuayi, OG, Van Aanholt, Townsend) Palace 5 - 3 Bournemouth 2020 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Newcastle
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07 Apr 22 3.06am

I still think Gallagher would struggle for playing time at Chelsea next season. Starring for us is different than being a productive regular in one of the top sides in the world. The same could be said for Zaha.

I know professional footballers want to play with the best, but at the same time, there's something to be said for being a legend at a regular club, rather than sitting on the bench of a big six club. As long as the money is comparable.

2017 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Middlesboro
2018 Jan. (Sako) Palace 1 - 0 Burnley
2019 May (Batshuayi, Batshuayi, OG, Van Aanholt, Townsend) Palace 5 - 3 Bournemouth
2020 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Newcastle

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Oddball2021 Adelaide 07 Apr 22 4.49am
If I were Chelsea, and I didn't currently need CG on the pitch, I'd be thinking another loan spell with Palace. I wouldn't want his meteoric rise in skills and ability (and value) playing week-in week-out at Palace to suddenly stop with him sitting deflated and angry on a Chelsea bench. What would CG's value have been today if he wasn't at Palace? I think another loan deal is a win-win for both clubs and that's what I predict.
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Adelaide 07 Apr 22 4.49am

If I were Chelsea, and I didn't currently need CG on the pitch, I'd be thinking another loan spell with Palace. I wouldn't want his meteoric rise in skills and ability (and value) playing week-in week-out at Palace to suddenly stop with him sitting deflated and angry on a Chelsea bench. What would CG's value have been today if he wasn't at Palace? I think another loan deal is a win-win for both clubs and that's what I predict.

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Sansbup Norfolk 07 Apr 22 9.35am
Originally posted by Oddball2021 If I were Chelsea, and I didn't currently need CG on the pitch, I'd be thinking another loan spell with Palace. I wouldn't want his meteoric rise in skills and ability (and value) playing week-in week-out at Palace to suddenly stop with him sitting deflated and angry on a Chelsea bench. What would CG's value have been today if he wasn't at Palace? I think another loan deal is a win-win for both clubs and that's what I predict. Yep. Fingers crossed.
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Norfolk 07 Apr 22 9.35am

Originally posted by Oddball2021

Yep. Fingers crossed.

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