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 Grumbles 18 Mar 22 3.13pm |
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Originally posted by JRW2
Profit - ah yes, that dirty word, that awful thing, the taxation on which pays for our public services. I don't think you can put the P&O management team and the word profit into the same sentence.
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Mapletree  Croydon 18 Mar 22 4.27pm |
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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle
I used to know DP World quite well, I was a supplier to them & knew quite a few of the senior management well enough to know that their opinion of the company as an employer was favourable, they were good people to work for, clearly things can change over time & circumstance but my view of this (without being privy to the facts) would be that DPW will have tried to settle this as amicably as possible at least initially - now whether union involvement, business circumstances (Brexit / Covid- who knows what) has meant that a more robust position has been adopted your guess is as good as mine, but a company that loses £100 million a year needs something to change or its unsustainable. In 2020 - the last filed accounts - it made £68.4m EBITDA. I guess the question would be what would the future hold, would it return to profit. I assume Brexit will have reduced its revenue last year as well as COVID. But we are told the Brexit effect is now reducing and trade recovering so I don't see why 2021 would be anything other than a blip. Maybe P&O is using last year's results as an excuse to do what it had been wanting to do for a while... Also, annual results can be worked upon to make them look better or worse, I suspect the worst possible scenario was put forward.
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 18 Mar 22 4.30pm |
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Originally posted by YT
It's nothing to do with the Conservatives, nor indeed with any current or previous UK government. As someone else has pointed out, the ferry company is based in Dubai. The contracts of employment are with a company registered in Jersey - typical arrangements in the maritime industry according to Simon Calder, the travel correspondent for The Independent. Perhaps YT, but getting rid of workers rights, the right to picket with no more than 6 people is dopwn to the CONS, so are zero hours contracts, gig economy and numerous other things that make the low paids life hard.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 18 Mar 22 4.34pm |
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Originally posted by kevlee
How they were sacked is out of order, but thats the free market and capitalism in full effect. Yes, bang on Kev, they may be out of work, not making rent or mortgage, a tad chilly in home with overcoats on, little hungry after beans on toast yet again, scared to open the mail or knock at door as debt collectors aren"t friendly, but, at least they have democracy!
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| Badger11 Beckenham 18 Mar 22 6.41pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Perhaps YT, but getting rid of workers rights, the right to picket with no more than 6 people is dopwn to the CONS, so are zero hours contracts, gig economy and numerous other things that make the low paids life hard. Actually this is nothing to do with workers rights being watered down it wouldn't have made a difference. According to the BBC and the government P&O have almost certainly broken employment laws so this will end up in the courts and they will lose. It doesn't matter what laws you have if an unscrupulousness employer breaks them it's for the courts to decide. P&O's reputation will be destroyed over this and quite rightly. One final point CP, if the employment laws are so bad why didn't Tony Blair change them? Edited by Badger11 (18 Mar 2022 6.42pm)
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| YT Oxford 18 Mar 22 7.02pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
You got the jist of it though didn't you, you melt. Yes I got the jist of the fact that you didn't have a clue what you were talking about. And there's no need to resort to name-calling.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 18 Mar 22 7.29pm |
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Originally posted by YT
Yes I got the jist of the fact that you didn't have a clue what you were talking about. And there's no need to resort to name-calling. There's of course no need to pick up on someones thread Re spelling, punctuation etc
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| Grumbles 18 Mar 22 9.05pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
There's of course no need to pick up on someones thread Re spelling, punctuation etc He wasn't. He was pointing out extremely light weight thinking. You were rude just apologise, a thought that would go far with many posters on this site. It seems here many will fire off insults until they get a yellow card, and then because they can't trust themselves don't post for a month.
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| kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 18 Mar 22 9.18pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Actually this is nothing to do with workers rights being watered down it wouldn't have made a difference. According to the BBC and the government P&O have almost certainly broken employment laws so this will end up in the courts and they will lose. It doesn't matter what laws you have if an unscrupulousness employer breaks them it's for the courts to decide. P&O's reputation will be destroyed over this and quite rightly. One final point CP, if the employment laws are so bad why didn't Tony Blair change them? Edited by Badger11 (18 Mar 2022 6.42pm)
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| Grumbles 18 Mar 22 9.20pm |
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Originally posted by kevlee
Exactly what did the Romans do for employment law?
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| kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 18 Mar 22 9.30pm |
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Originally posted by Grumbles
Exactly what did the Romans do for employment law? Who asked?
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| Grumbles 18 Mar 22 11.01pm |
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Originally posted by kevlee
Who asked? Monty Phyton?
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