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 PalazioVecchio  south pole 16 Jun 22 8.50pm |
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just as an intellectual exercise : imagine if Saudi never had massive Oil reserves.
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cryrst  The garden of England 16 Jun 22 8.52pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
just as an intellectual exercise : imagine if Saudi never had massive Oil reserves. Look I don’t know but you could be on to something there
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Matov  16 Jun 22 8.59pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
just as an intellectual exercise : imagine if Saudi never had massive Oil reserves.
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| Matov 16 Jun 22 9.00pm |
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Double post Doh! Edited by Matov (16 Jun 2022 9.01pm)
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| BlueJay UK 16 Jun 22 9.04pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
just as an intellectual exercise : imagine if Saudi never had massive Oil reserves. Good point. Much in life is dependnent on lucking out geographically, and maintaining a level of control of those resources.
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| Mapletree Croydon 16 Jun 22 11.02pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
just as an intellectual exercise : imagine if Saudi never had massive Oil reserves. Just a big Yemen then
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jun 22 11.08pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
the yanks are best friends with both the Saudi's AND Israel. Incongruous, but true. Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Jun 2022 5.42pm) It's only ever about money and power. Whose who have it and those who don't. In terms of power dynamics nothing ever really changes that much from the playground. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jun 2022 11.10pm)
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| cryrst The garden of England 17 Jun 22 6.04am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's only ever about money and power. Whose who have it and those who don't. In terms of power dynamics nothing ever really changes that much from the playground. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jun 2022 11.10pm) Certainly but you need rich and poor for society to operate. If we were all rich there are no leaders, if we are all poor the same. It’s the dynamic of civilisation.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 17 Jun 22 3.25pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Not always fair granted but it has to be. Lord of the flies is the other way but even they got it together in different groups with a heirachy eventually. Hierarchy is inevitable. A fact that drives Lefties hog-wild.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Jun 22 3.42pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Certainly but you need rich and poor for society to operate. If we were all rich there are no leaders, if we are all poor the same. It’s the dynamic of civilisation. Obviously I fully agree with you. I've long argued that there is a symbiotic relationship between rich and poor: one needs the other....Many many books basically say the same thing in many different ways. What you want is a tide that rises all boats...what you have been getting is a tide rising just the nice boats....in the long run that doesn't end well. The ideal is a hierarchy that is built upon merit. If you have the best minds in the most important jobs your society will flourish. However, that is only maintained if the leaders believe strongly in those principles. If their attention is focused by money, cronyism and centralised control the system quickly becomes a parody....At the moment our unelected institutions and corporations are pretty far left socially (I've previously said why that is) and that ideology decides who gets into leadership decisions. As always if you want to see the quality of your leaders and what they believe you look at what the top universities were pumping out twenty-thirty years ago. The present future and what's coming have been low quality elites for some time and that will continue until such time as events change that environment. If you take technology out of the equation and look at economics the west has been in decline for some time.....printing money does not solve an illness, it's a painkiller that only delays it, while directly worsening the illness.
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| cryrst The garden of England 17 Jun 22 6.54pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Obviously I fully agree with you. I've long argued that there is a symbiotic relationship between rich and poor: one needs the other....Many many books basically say the same thing in many different ways. What you want is a tide that rises all boats...what you have been getting is a tide rising just the nice boats....in the long run that doesn't end well. The ideal is a hierarchy that is built upon merit. If you have the best minds in the most important jobs your society will flourish. However, that is only maintained if the leaders believe strongly in those principles. If their attention is focused by money, cronyism and centralised control the system quickly becomes a parody....At the moment our unelected institutions and corporations are pretty far left socially (I've previously said why that is) and that ideology decides who gets into leadership decisions. As always if you want to see the quality of your leaders and what they believe you look at what the top universities were pumping out twenty-thirty years ago. The present future and what's coming have been low quality elites for some time and that will continue until such time as events change that environment. If you take technology out of the equation and look at economics the west has been in decline for some time.....printing money does not solve an illness, it's a painkiller that only delays it, while directly worsening the illness.
This starts locally with councils. Positive discrimination in favour of gay, non white or disabled to fill a criteria. Not right, not clever and defiantly not beneficial to the populace under said councils.
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| Mapletree Croydon 18 Jun 22 11.35pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
This starts locally with councils. Positive discrimination in favour of gay, non white or disabled to fill a criteria. Not right, not clever and defiantly not beneficial to the populace under said councils. Also not legal and not possible But nice bit of outrage for the weekend. Defiantly.
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