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aashman12 20 Feb 22 9.55am
Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker Sorry but i think Pat, is doing a good job , when you look at some of the other managers some of the members were baying for them to be our manager , Benetis got sacked from Everton , Cooper sacked from Swansea , ismail whatever his name is sacked , Nuno sacked . I think it will take time for us to gell as a team and we are playing attractive attacking football who was only just beaten by European club cup winners in the last miniute of the game . Cooper walked out of Swansea and has done wonders at forest.
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aashman12

20 Feb 22 9.55am

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Sorry but i think Pat, is doing a good job , when you look at some of the other managers some of the members were baying for them to be our manager , Benetis got sacked from Everton , Cooper sacked from Swansea , ismail whatever his name is sacked , Nuno sacked . I think it will take time for us to gell as a team and we are playing attractive attacking football who was only just beaten by European club cup winners in the last miniute of the game .

Cooper walked out of Swansea and has done wonders at forest.

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aashman12 20 Feb 22 9.59am
Originally posted by Luarddd This has to be a joke right? Roy has a front 3 better than any 3 he ever had at palace, his style and their fire power will keep them up easily, we gave him nothing to work with after his 1st season.
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aashman12

20 Feb 22 9.59am

Originally posted by Luarddd

This has to be a joke right?

Roy has a front 3 better than any 3 he ever had at palace, his style and their fire power will keep them up easily, we gave him nothing to work with after his 1st season.

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aashman12 20 Feb 22 10.00am
Originally posted by Tickled pink Really? ..thought Chelsea were the negative ones by fouling us every single time we got the better of them. West Ham who are fifth have lost eight games all season, do you know how many we've lost? How are we not 6th then
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20 Feb 22 10.00am

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Really? ..thought Chelsea were the negative ones by fouling us every single time we got the better of them.

West Ham who are fifth have lost eight games all season, do you know how many we've lost?

How are we not 6th then

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samprior Hamburg 20 Feb 22 10.05am
Originally posted by The Dolphin I really like the way we play but as I just posted elsewhere - playing well doesn't guarantee results and they are what we need currently. It is fine margins at this level and the odd mistake and the odd miss means so much right now. Our form isn't awful - the last 10 games have seen us take 10 points - 4 losses against Liverpool, West Ham, Chelsea and Spurs - we wouldn't have expected anything from those games in reality would we? 13 goals for - 15 conceded - not great but 9 of those conceded in three loseable games - so not worrying to concede 6 in the other 7 games. It is not knowing how to beat the likes of Norwich and Brentford that is causing the problems. Wednesday and next Saturday are crucial now and we have to find a way to take some chances. Early goals against the teams around us change games - they have to come at us then which will work in our favour. PV needs to work this out and set the plans and the traps. 4 points from these next two games and we will be fine - lose one or both and trouble is looming. Watford and Burnley both looked good yesterday and we need to dampen their spirits asap. Edited by The Dolphin (20 Feb 2022 7.51am) Very good summary. COYP big couple of games coming up!
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Hamburg 20 Feb 22 10.05am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I really like the way we play but as I just posted elsewhere - playing well doesn't guarantee results and they are what we need currently.
It is fine margins at this level and the odd mistake and the odd miss means so much right now.
Our form isn't awful - the last 10 games have seen us take 10 points - 4 losses against Liverpool, West Ham, Chelsea and Spurs - we wouldn't have expected anything from those games in reality would we?
13 goals for - 15 conceded - not great but 9 of those conceded in three loseable games - so not worrying to concede 6 in the other 7 games.
It is not knowing how to beat the likes of Norwich and Brentford that is causing the problems.
Wednesday and next Saturday are crucial now and we have to find a way to take some chances.
Early goals against the teams around us change games - they have to come at us then which will work in our favour.
PV needs to work this out and set the plans and the traps.
4 points from these next two games and we will be fine - lose one or both and trouble is looming.
Watford and Burnley both looked good yesterday and we need to dampen their spirits asap.

Edited by The Dolphin (20 Feb 2022 7.51am)

Very good summary.

COYP big couple of games coming up!

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PatrickA London 20 Feb 22 10.11am
The performances have not been that bad but we have not been getting the results. We’re always competitive and remain in games, although the concession of late goals is a concern. There does not seem to be that much wrong except, and this is critical, in making and taking chances. You can’t win games if you don’t score and this is one of the reasons we draw so many. There’s much to admire in the way the team is adjusting to Vieira’s methods, but the one area where he has yet to convince is in his deployment of our forwards. It’s easy to say they are not good enough, but do we play to their strengths? Are they being giving an opportunity to build a rhythm with the constant chopping and changing? I haven’t a clue from one week to the next what the make up our forward line will be but am pretty certain what the back four will look like.
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London 20 Feb 22 10.11am

The performances have not been that bad but we have not been getting the results.
We’re always competitive and remain in games, although the concession of late goals is a concern.
There does not seem to be that much wrong except, and this is critical, in making and taking chances.
You can’t win games if you don’t score and this is one of the reasons we draw so many.
There’s much to admire in the way the team is adjusting to Vieira’s methods, but the one area where he has yet to convince is in his deployment of our forwards.
It’s easy to say they are not good enough, but do we play to their strengths?
Are they being giving an opportunity to build a rhythm with the constant chopping and changing?
I haven’t a clue from one week to the next what the make up our forward line will be but am pretty certain what the back four will look like.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Feb 22 10.22am
Originally posted by PatrickA The performances have not been that bad but we have not been getting the results. We’re always competitive and remain in games, although the concession of late goals is a concern. There does not seem to be that much wrong except, and this is critical, in making and taking chances. You can’t win games if you don’t score and this is one of the reasons we draw so many. There’s much to admire in the way the team is adjusting to Vieira’s methods, but the one area where he has yet to convince is in his deployment of our forwards. It’s easy to say they are not good enough, but do we play to their strengths? Are they being giving an opportunity to build a rhythm with the constant chopping and changing? I haven’t a clue from one week to the next what the make up our forward line will be but am pretty certain what the back four will look like. We are 'Birds on the same twig' on this matter. Benteke is clearly out of favour, Mateta is yet to convince supporters he is worth a regular place and Edouard has been played out wide.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Feb 22 10.22am

Originally posted by PatrickA

The performances have not been that bad but we have not been getting the results.
We’re always competitive and remain in games, although the concession of late goals is a concern.
There does not seem to be that much wrong except, and this is critical, in making and taking chances.
You can’t win games if you don’t score and this is one of the reasons we draw so many.
There’s much to admire in the way the team is adjusting to Vieira’s methods, but the one area where he has yet to convince is in his deployment of our forwards.
It’s easy to say they are not good enough, but do we play to their strengths?
Are they being giving an opportunity to build a rhythm with the constant chopping and changing?
I haven’t a clue from one week to the next what the make up our forward line will be but am pretty certain what the back four will look like.

We are 'Birds on the same twig' on this matter.

Benteke is clearly out of favour, Mateta is yet to convince supporters he is worth a regular place and Edouard has been played out wide.

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rikz Croydon 20 Feb 22 10.23am
We are not getting the results, and his team selections are baffling but loom at the table, go on forums for Leicester, villa, Everton, Brentford, Leeds, Watford, Norwich, Burnley, their fans will be in the sane boat, its not as easy, unless you're a big club, 90% of the time you're struggling, you get the odd good season like West ham, wolves and Brighton. Newcastle were extremely lucky to be bought out. PV has still done a relatively good job
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Croydon 20 Feb 22 10.23am

We are not getting the results, and his team selections are baffling but loom at the table, go on forums for Leicester, villa, Everton, Brentford, Leeds, Watford, Norwich, Burnley, their fans will be in the sane boat, its not as easy, unless you're a big club, 90% of the time you're struggling, you get the odd good season like West ham, wolves and Brighton. Newcastle were extremely lucky to be bought out. PV has still done a relatively good job

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slubglurge welling 20 Feb 22 10.24am
I fear a 1-0 defeat against Watford. Roy has in Sarr and Dennis two very quick forwards who are also good finishers. He will put 8 men behind the ball and play the ball behind our back four exposing our lack of pace.
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welling 20 Feb 22 10.24am

I fear a 1-0 defeat against Watford. Roy has in Sarr and Dennis two very quick forwards who are also good finishers. He will put 8 men behind the ball and play the ball behind our back four exposing our lack of pace.

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aashman12 20 Feb 22 10.25am
Originally posted by slubglurge I fear a 1-0 defeat against Watford. Roy has in Sarr and Dennis two very quick forwards who are also good finishers. He will put 8 men behind the ball and play the ball behind our back four exposing our lack of pace. And josh King who on his day is a right handful.
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20 Feb 22 10.25am

Originally posted by slubglurge

And josh King who on his day is a right handful.

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southnorwoodhill 20 Feb 22 10.27am
Agent Roy will do right by us, have no fear!
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20 Feb 22 10.27am

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Feb 22 10.29am
Originally posted by slubglurge I fear a 1-0 defeat against Watford. Roy has in Sarr and Dennis two very quick forwards who are also good finishers. He will put 8 men behind the ball and play the ball behind our back four exposing our lack of pace. A defeat against Watford will cause shockwaves amongst our supporters many of whom I suspect are now believing that relegation is a realistic prospect and such fears will be heightened if Watford emerge victorious.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Feb 22 10.29am

Originally posted by slubglurge

A defeat against Watford will cause shockwaves amongst our supporters many of whom I suspect are now believing that relegation is a realistic prospect and such fears will be heightened if Watford emerge victorious.

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 20 Feb 22 10.33am
Originally posted by slubglurge I fear a 1-0 defeat against Watford. Roy has in Sarr and Dennis two very quick forwards who are also good finishers. He will put 8 men behind the ball and play the ball behind our back four exposing our lack of pace. It’s always our luck that we have to play struggling teams just as they find a bit of form, as others have said, this is a big week, we couldn’t beat Norwich or brentford, if we can’t beat Watford or Burnley as well, we really will be looking over our shoulders.
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Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 20 Feb 22 10.33am

Originally posted by slubglurge

It’s always our luck that we have to play struggling teams just as they find a bit of form, as others have said, this is a big week, we couldn’t beat Norwich or brentford, if we can’t beat Watford or Burnley as well, we really will be looking over our shoulders.

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