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steeleye20 Croydon 14 Feb 22 1.19pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Maybe having to fund us getting through an unpredictable pandemic hasn’t helped? Edited by Spiderman (13 Feb 2022 9.08pm) Nonsense the pandemic has made the insanely rich even richer. None more than the banks, the winners of the financial crisis and the last decade. And they want workers to be responsible they really take the biscuit.
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Croydon 14 Feb 22 1.19pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Maybe having to fund us getting through an unpredictable pandemic hasn’t helped?

Edited by Spiderman (13 Feb 2022 9.08pm)

Nonsense the pandemic has made the insanely rich even richer.

None more than the banks, the winners of the financial crisis and the last decade.

And they want workers to be responsible they really take the biscuit.

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Stirlingsays 14 Feb 22 1.30pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Nonsense the pandemic has made the insanely rich even richer. None more than the banks, the winners of the financial crisis and the last decade. And they want workers to be responsible they really take the biscuit. I don't and I doubt Spider disagrees with you. When it comes to money it's 'tough luck' capitalism for the poor and 'too big to fail' socialism for banks and super rich. The pandemic has seen massive wealth transfer. Yet, no one talks about why we are here....and none of them changed anything significant in the system after 2008. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Feb 2022 1.31pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Feb 22 1.30pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Nonsense the pandemic has made the insanely rich even richer.

None more than the banks, the winners of the financial crisis and the last decade.

And they want workers to be responsible they really take the biscuit.

I don't and I doubt Spider disagrees with you.

When it comes to money it's 'tough luck' capitalism for the poor and 'too big to fail' socialism for banks and super rich.

The pandemic has seen massive wealth transfer.

Yet, no one talks about why we are here....and none of them changed anything significant in the system after 2008.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Feb 2022 1.31pm)

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Feb 22 2.34pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Nonsense the pandemic has made the insanely rich even richer. None more than the banks, the winners of the financial crisis and the last decade. And they want workers to be responsible they really take the biscuit. So 400 billion and none went to the general public on furlough or business loans. None went on health workers or ppe. None went on all the testing kits and sites to do this testing. Yup it all went in the pockets of the rich! If you had a business which could have made a profit from C19 you would have. Sanctimony is only for the losers.
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The garden of England 14 Feb 22 2.34pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Nonsense the pandemic has made the insanely rich even richer.

None more than the banks, the winners of the financial crisis and the last decade.

And they want workers to be responsible they really take the biscuit.

So 400 billion and none went to the general public on furlough or business loans. None went on health workers or ppe. None went on all the testing kits and sites to do this testing. Yup it all went in the pockets of the rich! If you had a business which could have made a profit from C19 you would have. Sanctimony is only for the losers.

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Stirlingsays 14 Feb 22 2.47pm
Originally posted by cryrst So 400 billion and none went to the general public on furlough or business loans. None went on health workers or ppe. None went on all the testing kits and sites to do this testing. Yup it all went in the pockets of the rich! If you had a business which could have made a profit from C19 you would have. Sanctimony is only for the losers. We are all losers here. Tens of billions went on paying wages and businesses that had to let staff go and close regardless. How many big businesses had to close because of the pandemic? Can't think of many myself. A third of ppe cost was wasted...though I partly accept that due to not knowing the future course of the pandemic. As for the corporational profits that's a whole other level of post. There was always going to be an economic hit from this pandemic but lockdowns were the economic icing on the cake....the twist of the knife. Anyway the working/middle classes are all paying this back on rising living costs, now with more to come. There is a massive generational cost here. Most of the people paying for this were in hardly any danger at all. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Feb 2022 2.50pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Feb 22 2.47pm

Originally posted by cryrst

We are all losers here.

Tens of billions went on paying wages and businesses that had to let staff go and close regardless. How many big businesses had to close because of the pandemic? Can't think of many myself. A third of ppe cost was wasted...though I partly accept that due to not knowing the future course of the pandemic.

As for the corporational profits that's a whole other level of post.

There was always going to be an economic hit from this pandemic but lockdowns were the economic icing on the cake....the twist of the knife. Anyway the working/middle classes are all paying this back on rising living costs, now with more to come. There is a massive generational cost here. Most of the people paying for this were in hardly any danger at all.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Feb 2022 2.50pm)

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Spiderman Horsham 14 Feb 22 4.01pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle That was the point I was making. Steeley thinks you are talking nonsense then
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Horsham 14 Feb 22 4.01pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That was the point I was making.

Steeley thinks you are talking nonsense then

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Spiderman Horsham 14 Feb 22 4.03pm
Originally posted by cryrst So 400 billion and none went to the general public on furlough or business loans. None went on health workers or ppe. None went on all the testing kits and sites to do this testing. Yup it all went in the pockets of the rich! If you had a business which could have made a profit from C19 you would have. Sanctimony is only for the losers. Thank you
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Horsham 14 Feb 22 4.03pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Thank you

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Feb 22 4.18pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Thank you What I actually wrote something a bit sensible yay
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The garden of England 14 Feb 22 4.18pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Thank you

What I actually wrote something a bit sensible yay

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Stirlingsays 14 Feb 22 4.42pm
Originally posted by cryrst What I actually wrote something a bit sensible yay That's certainly the last time I make a prediction on someone's else viewpoint. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Feb 22 4.42pm

Originally posted by cryrst

What I actually wrote something a bit sensible yay

That's certainly the last time I make a prediction on someone's else viewpoint.

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Matov 14 Feb 22 6.30pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yet, no one talks about why we are here....and none of them changed anything significant in the system after 2008. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Feb 2022 1.31pm) The only change has been that we are now involved in a culture war about trans-bulls*** rather than just how the banks and corporations not only got away with heinous crimes but actually ended up being rewarded for it. I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that vast amounts of this 'woke' BS is nothing more than a deliberate distraction operation designed to set people at each others throats whilst the usual suspects get away with ripping us all off. Perhaps we have all been played. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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14 Feb 22 6.30pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yet, no one talks about why we are here....and none of them changed anything significant in the system after 2008.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Feb 2022 1.31pm)

The only change has been that we are now involved in a culture war about trans-bulls*** rather than just how the banks and corporations not only got away with heinous crimes but actually ended up being rewarded for it.

I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that vast amounts of this 'woke' BS is nothing more than a deliberate distraction operation designed to set people at each others throats whilst the usual suspects get away with ripping us all off.

Perhaps we have all been played.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Feb 22 6.52pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays We are all losers here. Tens of billions went on paying wages and businesses that had to let staff go and close regardless. How many big businesses had to close because of the pandemic? Can't think of many myself. A third of ppe cost was wasted...though I partly accept that due to not knowing the future course of the pandemic. As for the corporational profits that's a whole other level of post. There was always going to be an economic hit from this pandemic but lockdowns were the economic icing on the cake....the twist of the knife. Anyway the working/middle classes are all paying this back on rising living costs, now with more to come. There is a massive generational cost here. Most of the people paying for this were in hardly any danger at all. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Feb 2022 2.50pm) Many of us pay a lot for non payers into the system though. There was the potential for any of us to need care ref c19. Fortunately a tiny potential but it was and is there. There is absolutely no potential of the non payers actually paying. I'm as capitalist as the next man and know what I would rather pay for and why.
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The garden of England 14 Feb 22 6.52pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

We are all losers here.

As for the corporational profits that's a whole other level of post.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Feb 2022 2.50pm)

Many of us pay a lot for non payers into the system though.
There was the potential for any of us to need care ref c19.
Fortunately a tiny potential but it was and is there.
There is absolutely no potential of the non payers actually paying. I'm as capitalist as the next man and know what I would rather pay for and why.

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Stirlingsays 14 Feb 22 7.08pm
Originally posted by cryrst Many of us pay a lot for non payers into the system though. There was the potential for any of us to need care ref c19. Fortunately a tiny potential but it was and is there. There is absolutely no potential of the non payers actually paying. I'm as capitalist as the next man and know what I would rather pay for and why. Yeah, many of us do pay into the system for non payers....sure, not 370 billion though.....that's generational debt upon generational debt. The scale is completely different. You can justify Cryrst but personally I can't see it. Never happened before.....there are over reactions and then there is what happened. It's going to get harder to justify the tougher it gets my man. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Feb 2022 7.09pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Feb 22 7.08pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Yeah, many of us do pay into the system for non payers....sure, not 370 billion though.....that's generational debt upon generational debt. The scale is completely different.

You can justify Cryrst but personally I can't see it. Never happened before.....there are over reactions and then there is what happened. It's going to get harder to justify the tougher it gets my man.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Feb 2022 7.09pm)

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Feb 22 7.33pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yeah, many of us do pay into the system for non payers....sure, not 370 billion though.....that's generational debt upon generational debt. The scale is completely different. You can justify Cryrst but personally I can't see it. Never happened before.....there are over reactions and then there is what happened. It's going to get harder to justify the tougher it gets my man. I'm only justifying it over the potential. Without the things done around the world the future wasn't known ref c19. A more dangerous strain could still emerge and hindsight will be everyone's buzzword. I've no doubt how tough it will be Stirling. Point is you can't turn the clock back. All can do is play with the deck you have. This life thing isn't meant to be easy. As you know ive been there done that
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The garden of England 14 Feb 22 7.33pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yeah, many of us do pay into the system for non payers....sure, not 370 billion though.....that's generational debt upon generational debt. The scale is completely different.

I'm only justifying it over the potential. Without the things done around the world the future wasn't known ref c19. A more dangerous strain could still emerge and hindsight will be everyone's buzzword. I've no doubt how tough it will be Stirling. Point is you can't turn the clock back. All can do is play with the deck you have. This life thing isn't meant to be easy. As you know ive been there done that

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