Typical of the moral bankruptcy of the West is Deutsche TV banning the RT News Channel (Russia today).

They don't want Germans to see that in Moscow there is no build-up and complete disinterest in a conflict largely made by the west itself.

The traditional Russian view that NATO is their enemy is being shown to be justified.

Russia has responded by giving Deutsche TV the boot in turn.

Good for them.

Our plan is to virtue signal until Russia surrenders unconditionally. I can see no fault in that.

We shouldn't be here.

This represents a giant failure of principally both the current American leadership and of Nato's policy since the Berlin wall came down.

Still, no mean tweets eh.

Let's not forget that Trump was complaining about the Russian gaspipe lines into Europe at the start of his presidency and how it compromises Europe....he did this and received all the usual stupid commentary in return.....no one is laughing now.

Now Johnson is literally saying the same thing....but the reverse will be massively costly.....Who are the f***ing idiots who come up with this stupidity....Why aren't they held accountable?

War will bring significant increases in gas prices, even for us....upon prices that already are about to at least double.

Trump was right and he also sanctioned Russia significantly while in office but importantly he got on with Putin and as a nationalist himself he understands the need for buffer zones.

It's obvious that the west are pushing into Ukraine, from Biden's dodgy deals to leaderships making requests to join anyone with half a brain understands the direction of travel. The Russian response in some form was always likely.

What the feck are we doing over there in Eastern Europe....Poland I can understand as that was not communist until Stalin....but Ukraine always had a Russian influence due to its geographics.

We need Russia....They are European and we need them distanced from China not forming alliances. Who are these people being paid to f*** things up.

It should be the sons of these bureaucrats, corporates and politicians in the front lines in danger....not normal common people...perhaps then they would think straight.

So so f***ing stupid.

One basis flaw in your argument, which has some merits, the People of Ukraine do NOT want Russia in their country

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Feb 2022 1.22pm)

We shouldn't be here.

This represents a giant failure of principally both the current American leadership and of Nato's policy since the Berlin wall came down.

Still, no mean tweets eh.

Let's not forget that Trump was complaining about the Russian gaspipe lines into Europe at the start of his presidency and how it compromises Europe....he did this and received all the usual stupid commentary in return.....no one is laughing now.

Now Johnson is literally saying the same thing....but the reverse will be massively costly.....Who are the f***ing idiots who come up with this stupidity....Why aren't they held accountable?

War will bring significant increases in gas prices and god knows what else when we already have more inflation than I can remember....and this is upon gas prices that already are about to at least double. If you're have a few bob then it's less important but people are suffering right now....feck knows what this would do.

Trump was right and he also sanctioned Russia significantly while in office but importantly he got on with Putin and as a nationalist himself he understands the need for buffer zones.

It's obvious that the west are pushing into Ukraine, from Biden's dodgy deals to leaderships making requests to join anyone with half a brain understands the direction of travel. The Russian response in some form was always likely.

What the feck are we doing over there in Eastern Europe....Poland I can understand as that was not communist until Stalin....but Ukraine always had a Russian influence due to its geographics.

We need Russia....They are European and we need them distanced from China not forming alliances. Who are these people being paid to f*** things up.

It should be the sons of these bureaucrats, corporates and politicians in the front lines in danger....not normal common people...perhaps then they would think straight.

So so f***ing stupid.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Feb 2022 1.34pm)