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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Feb 22 11.14pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle But this isn’t really about the match referee - it’s about the VAR ref who didn’t have to make a decision in real time, had the benefit of slow motion and several angles and still got it wrong. The VAR often has to make subjective decisions and as a consequence they are open to debate with differing viewpoints.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Feb 22 11.14pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But this isn’t really about the match referee - it’s about the VAR ref who didn’t have to make a decision in real time, had the benefit of slow motion and several angles and still got it wrong.

The VAR often has to make subjective decisions and as a consequence they are open to debate with differing viewpoints.

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Teddy Eagle 28 Feb 22 12.07am
Originally posted by Willo The VAR often has to make subjective decisions and as a consequence they are open to debate with differing viewpoints. If the system is that subjective then what’s the point of it? VAR costs nearly £3,000,000 a season - has it improved football or not?
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Teddy Eagle

28 Feb 22 12.07am

Originally posted by Willo

The VAR often has to make subjective decisions and as a consequence they are open to debate with differing viewpoints.

If the system is that subjective then what’s the point of it? VAR costs nearly £3,000,000 a season - has it improved football or not?

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Spiderman Horsham 28 Feb 22 7.52am
I think we can all probably agree that it is the inconsistency that is killing the game.If VAR is all about being subjective what is the point?
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Spiderman

Horsham 28 Feb 22 7.52am

I think we can all probably agree that it is the inconsistency that is killing the game.If VAR is all about being subjective what is the point?

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Tickled pink Cornwall 28 Feb 22 7.55am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'var' by becky Originally posted by dreamwaverider The league cup final today had 4 disallowed goals. Ended 0-0 then had 22 penalties, 21 of which were almost unstoppable. The modern game needs to take a close look at all this. My fear is the game is becoming too tight. We need the correct result don't we, but the Lukaku offside was absolutely ridiculous ..they seem desperate to not allow teams to score.
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Tickled pink

Cornwall 28 Feb 22 7.55am

This post has been merged from a topic called 'var' by becky

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

The league cup final today had 4 disallowed goals. Ended 0-0 then had 22 penalties, 21 of which were almost unstoppable. The modern game needs to take a close look at all this. My fear is the game is becoming too tight.

We need the correct result don't we, but the Lukaku offside was absolutely ridiculous ..they seem desperate to not allow teams to score.

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dreamwaverider London 28 Feb 22 7.55am
Originally posted by JRW2 You've lost me. Easily done. !! Originally posted by Nicholas91 I sent in a comment to BBC which was not published TL: "Don't particularly like Everton, Lampard even more so, plus it suits my team for City to win here. However, had that penalty, and it was a penalty, been given, the question would not have been 'Why has the referee made that decision?', it would have been 'Why did Rodri do that?'. Inconsistent, bizarre and baffling decision making once again. Does make you wonder how much the officials are being paid for these decisions?" All fine until you got to the last sentence. BBC???? Really? No way those PC wokes would ever consider it. Even though 99% of football fans must be asking the same question tonight. In my book that decision has completely destroyed the point of having VAR. That was so blatant a penalty. It begs your question, yet our national public sector tv won’t go there. Shocking.
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Originally posted by JRW2

You've lost me. Easily done.

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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I sent in a comment to BBC which was not published TL:

"Don't particularly like Everton, Lampard even more so, plus it suits my team for City to win here. However, had that penalty, and it was a penalty, been given, the question would not have been 'Why has the referee made that decision?', it would have been 'Why did Rodri do that?'. Inconsistent, bizarre and baffling decision making once again. Does make you wonder how much the officials are being paid for these decisions?"

All fine until you got to the last sentence. BBC???? Really? No way those PC wokes would ever consider it. Even though 99% of football fans must be asking the same question tonight.
In my book that decision has completely destroyed the point of having VAR. That was so blatant a penalty. It begs your question, yet our national public sector tv won’t go there. Shocking.

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 28 Feb 22 8.00am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle If the system is that subjective then what’s the point of it? VAR costs nearly £3,000,000 a season - has it improved football or not? In my opinion, VAR is sucking the life out of the game. Old, Ungifted and White
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NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 28 Feb 22 8.00am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

If the system is that subjective then what’s the point of it? VAR costs nearly £3,000,000 a season - has it improved football or not?

In my opinion, VAR is sucking the life out of the game.

Old, Ungifted and White

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dreamwaverider London 28 Feb 22 8.12am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle If the system is that subjective then what’s the point of it? VAR costs nearly £3,000,000 a season - has it improved football or not? I would subjectively suggest that a lot more than £3m is being spent each season on VAR, only it is hidden and the amounts are unknown. However it is those possible payments that are killing football. Nobody with the benefit of action replays and all the angles could possibly question the Everton right to a penalty. It was totally clear cut if you watch them. So two extra points to Man City. What’s that worth? A lot more than £3m.
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dreamwaverider

London 28 Feb 22 8.12am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

If the system is that subjective then what’s the point of it? VAR costs nearly £3,000,000 a season - has it improved football or not?

I would subjectively suggest that a lot more than £3m is being spent each season on VAR, only it is hidden and the amounts are unknown. However it is those possible payments that are killing football.
Nobody with the benefit of action replays and all the angles could possibly question the Everton right to a penalty. It was totally clear cut if you watch them. So two extra points to Man City. What’s that worth? A lot more than £3m.

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dreamwaverider London 28 Feb 22 8.26am
In tennis there is a computer system that conclusively and immediately shows the world if a ball is in or out. No explanatory lines or angles taking ages to reach a decision by some guy behind the scenes. A comparative system could easily be produced for soccer which would eliminate all this nonsense. For some reason, football seems to want to keep all the pressure on human beings to make the call. Either the ref, and/or the person watching the playbacks on VAR. Absoute nonsense. Move it into the 21st century. Bot it and the problem is solved. All a hangover from the Herr Blatter era that we need to progress from and improve the image of football. That was the idea of VAR. Now go all the way with technology.
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dreamwaverider

London 28 Feb 22 8.26am

In tennis there is a computer system that conclusively and immediately shows the world if a ball is in or out. No explanatory lines or angles taking ages to reach a decision by some guy behind the scenes.
A comparative system could easily be produced for soccer which would eliminate all this nonsense.
For some reason, football seems to want to keep all the pressure on human beings to make the call. Either the ref, and/or the person watching the playbacks on VAR.
Absoute nonsense.
Move it into the 21st century. Bot it and the problem is solved.
All a hangover from the Herr Blatter era that we need to progress from and improve the image of football. That was the idea of VAR. Now go all the way with technology.

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The Dolphin 28 Feb 22 8.41am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'var' by becky Lukaku's goal should have been allowed - his arm/shoulder was ahead but his feet were way behind the opposition line. I really feel that if they are going to use millimetre's to deal with it then it should about where your feet are planted and leave it at that.
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The Dolphin

28 Feb 22 8.41am

This post has been merged from a topic called 'var' by becky

Lukaku's goal should have been allowed - his arm/shoulder was ahead but his feet were way behind the opposition line.
I really feel that if they are going to use millimetre's to deal with it then it should about where your feet are planted and leave it at that.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Feb 22 8.44am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider In tennis there is a computer system that conclusively and immediately shows the world if a ball is in or out. No explanatory lines or angles taking ages to reach a decision by some guy behind the scenes. A comparative system could easily be produced for soccer which would eliminate all this nonsense. For some reason, football seems to want to keep all the pressure on human beings to make the call. Either the ref, and/or the person watching the playbacks on VAR. Absoute nonsense. Move it into the 21st century. Bot it and the problem is solved. All a hangover from the Herr Blatter era that we need to progress from and improve the image of football. That was the idea of VAR. Now go all the way with technology. VAR system currently adjudicates on 'Offside' using technology and it is being enhanced as the following link illustrates. [Link]
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Feb 22 8.44am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

VAR system currently adjudicates on 'Offside' using technology and it is being enhanced as the following link illustrates.

[Link]

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Teddy Eagle 28 Feb 22 8.52am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider In tennis there is a computer system that conclusively and immediately shows the world if a ball is in or out. No explanatory lines or angles taking ages to reach a decision by some guy behind the scenes. A comparative system could easily be produced for soccer which would eliminate all this nonsense. For some reason, football seems to want to keep all the pressure on human beings to make the call. Either the ref, and/or the person watching the playbacks on VAR. Absoute nonsense. Move it into the 21st century. Bot it and the problem is solved. All a hangover from the Herr Blatter era that we need to progress from and improve the image of football. That was the idea of VAR. Now go all the way with technology. It works better in cricket and rugby too - one of the problems with football is that goals are rarer than wickets or tries so VAR decisions are more likely to affect the result and so cause controversy. Also as pointed out the potential financial implication for clubs is far higher in football. It seems daft for VAR to spend 3 minutes forensically analysing a minuscule offside possibility then ignore the wrestling which happens at corners.
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Teddy Eagle

28 Feb 22 8.52am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

It works better in cricket and rugby too - one of the problems with football is that goals are rarer than wickets or tries so VAR decisions are more likely to affect the result and so cause controversy.
Also as pointed out the potential financial implication for clubs is far higher in football.
It seems daft for VAR to spend 3 minutes forensically analysing a minuscule offside possibility then ignore the wrestling which happens at corners.

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MrRobbo Chaldon 28 Feb 22 8.54am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider In tennis there is a computer system that conclusively and immediately shows the world if a ball is in or out. No explanatory lines or angles taking ages to reach a decision by some guy behind the scenes. A comparative system could easily be produced for soccer which would eliminate all this nonsense. For some reason, football seems to want to keep all the pressure on human beings to make the call. Either the ref, and/or the person watching the playbacks on VAR. Absoute nonsense. Move it into the 21st century. Bot it and the problem is solved. All a hangover from the Herr Blatter era that we need to progress from and improve the image of football. That was the idea of VAR. Now go all the way with technology. In fairness, it is a bit easier in sports like tennis, that are more binary. The ball is either in or out. A lot of footballing decisions are obviously a lot more subjective, which I get. Its ones like this weekend that are unexplainable
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MrRobbo

Chaldon 28 Feb 22 8.54am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

In fairness, it is a bit easier in sports like tennis, that are more binary. The ball is either in or out.

A lot of footballing decisions are obviously a lot more subjective, which I get. Its ones like this weekend that are unexplainable

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