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Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 09 Jan 22 2.12pm Send a Private Message to Goal Machine Add Goal Machine as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Or imagine that, despite a world wide pandemic, we're blaming a small amount of people who don't get vaccinated over governments and their poor responses, combined with complete disregard for the real state of many health services. All of this, plus the vaccine has a relatively limited effect anyway. If it worked there would literally be no problem at all

It's not a small amount, it's about 10% of adults. Can't be bothered to look up exact figures, but I'd guess around 5 million.

The state of the health system is a different conversation - the vaccine is the way out of this but some people's actions (or lack of) mean we will remain in the state we are for longer than we need to.

The vaccine is effective, it reduces hospitalisation by 90% according to research. I've got mates who are front line NHS who are banging their heads against the wall because 90% of Covid patients are unvaccinated - how stupid have you got to be?

It's easy to blame governments with hindsight. I don't think many expected it to escalate as it did. Also, there's no point blaming governments now as it's in the past - we've got an opportunity to get out of it.

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 09 Jan 22 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

And just to raise a point about the vaccination and effectiveness and risk.
The vaccination was developed in approximately 10% of the time it usually takes drugs to get to market. Approximately 10 years is the timespan it takes from conception, through trials, some animal testing, then final human trials , before going to market.

Covid vaccines took about a year, and necessarily skipped a few hurdles. This is partially why its success isn't quite what we'd hoped.
There are other factors, such as Covid developing additional strains.
The upshot, (without blaming shambolic Governmental response), is that the way forward is for those offered vaccination, to take it.
It's a simple numbers game

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (09 Jan 2022 3.27pm)

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 10 Jan 22 7.46am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Well, he's won his case and is now staying in Oz.

[Link]

"Tennis star Novak Djokovic has won a court battle challenging the cancellation of his Australian visa, in a case that has drawn global attention
Djokovic’s lawyers argued the cancellation was unreasonable - the government conceded this, and judge Anthony Kelly also agreed
The judge ordered the immediate release of the Serbian tennis player and for the government to pay all costs" (BBC website)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 10 Jan 22 7.55am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

If he's tested negative the whole episode is a complete waste of time. An unnecessary distraction that now makes his participation in the open somewhat controversial.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Jan 22 8.43am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Several tennis players have skipped the Aussie open because they are not vaccinated and were told they could not come. At least one has been double vaccinated with the Sputnik vaccine which the Aussies don't recognise.

Not having a go at Novak but the Aussie Tennis Authorities and immigration have mucked this up. There will be absent players now saying well I could have come after all.

On a general point I don't agree with athletes getting preferential treatment over the public one rule for all...

 


One more point

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Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 10 Jan 22 9.22am Send a Private Message to Goal Machine Add Goal Machine as a friend

From BBC article:

He told the interviewer that he tested positive for Covid twice - in June 2020 and on 16 December 2021. Copies of his positive PCR tests were provided to the interviewer - one was issued on the 16 December 2021, a day before Djokovic appeared at public events without a mask.

 

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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Jan 22 9.27am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Being reported, admittedly by ITV, that he's been re-arrested.

Edited by eagleman13 (10 Jan 2022 9.31am)

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 10 Jan 22 9.58am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Goal Machine

From BBC article:

He told the interviewer that he tested positive for Covid twice - in June 2020 and on 16 December 2021. Copies of his positive PCR tests were provided to the interviewer - one was issued on the 16 December 2021, a day before Djokovic appeared at public events without a mask.

as I previously posted. here's the photo

and where else has the reckless bell-end been, infecting others and passing on the virus ?

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (10 Jan 2022 9.59am)

novak Dec 17 2021.jpg Attachment: novak Dec 17 2021.jpg (55.23Kb)

 


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Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 10 Jan 22 11.12am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

It's all getting very messy.

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This unfortunate saga isn't doing the game of tennis any favours.

 


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Dubai Eagle Flag 10 Jan 22 11.52am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Cant be easy (denied entry to a country) for an event where he was expected to be one of the big name participants, possibly even favourite to win it, then subsequently gained the right to enter by contesting the refusal decision, must leave a sour taste in you mouth, I wonder how many of us would be of a mind to say, stuff your tournament & leave.

 

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Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 10 Jan 22 12.04pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

He shouldn’t even be there. He hasn’t got a valid Visa.

He was trying to circumvent the system and expecting preferential treatment and it has backfired massively.

As for his appearance in public one day after testing positive for COVID…Tw@t.

Great to see the Australian Government making a stand on this. Get him deported.


 

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The Dolphin Flag 10 Jan 22 12.59pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Whatever happens here the whole situation is now a farce.
Tennis Australia cocked up because they didn't know the facts.
The powers that be are being political in Election year.
The Border Force officials couldn't wait to be too officious.
However - the biggest and most arrogant arse of the lot is Djokovic.
He is not vaccinated - now properly reported. He has had a positive covid test twice and the last of those was on December 16th 2021 when the day after he went unmasked to a photo event with a lot of people and the following day did another appointment with L'Equipe I believe when all the time he should have been isolating.
He has broken all of the rules regarding isolation and expects to swan in to a country with seriously strict covid border rules.
My mates over there are spitting feathers about this and reckon he will be less welcome than smallpox when and if he goes on court.
Whatever respect I had for him as a tennis player I now have none for him as a person - none at all.

 

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