If only they 'Rooted' out these problems at the start, then they wouldn't be 'Stokesing' this up into a crisis.

If the YCC board resign, they could easily get jobs issuing fishing licences.

There's plenty said between friends in jest that looks horrendous in the cold light of day (amongst a wider audience for whom it wasn't meant). I'd say that as good humoured banter between friends, what is acceptable or not should be entirely between them.

Then again you have to be able to judge your audience and know how something is being received too if you're going to say something close to the knuckle. Clearly 'if said' it got a few peoples backs up either at the time or in retrospect. To be remembered by multiple people (if indeed it was) it was likely a stand out event rather than something that was a passing moment.

Even if he did say this though, its not to say that he was say the same thing today. Both context and timespan are deemed irrelevant when someone is in the firing line, which of course isn't particularly reasonable either.

That omits the context of the words. Calling someone a Brit has no real negative connotations, whereas P**i is more routinely used as a racial insult (hence why HOL censors it), so that they're both four letter abbreviations or are not incorrect in conveying another meaning still strips what is often the meaning and reason for saying these specific words, especially nowadays.

If someones child had learning difficulties and you call them a 'retard' in certain circumstances it might technically be the right term to use, but in a societal context expect the parent to be grossly offended. If someone calls a man's wife a 'bitch' in front of him , fine she's female so again he's correct in a sense, but expect any man worth his salt to quickly correct the language used (unless his other half is indeed a bitch ).

Still, nothing is out of bounds really in the right setting. I'm just addressing your point regarding why words can often fairly be taken in very different ways.

Edited by BlueJay (06 Nov 2021 9.20am)

There is a huge distinction between Pxki and Brit which most of us can understand that word is offensive Brit is not.

I have not read the report but it talks about banter which implies a two way intercourse. What exactly was Rafiq supposed to have said in return? If nothing then it is not banter it is bullying.

If he called Balance a fat b****** or similar type insult (as a joke) the problem you then have is judging insults and words e.g. my Pxki is worse than your fat b******.

I think it is a pointless exercise to start to weigh the hurt certain words cause it is far better to stop this type of behaviour before it gets out of hand so the management are at fault for allowing this laddish culture to exist.

The other problem is that this is all historic what is going on in the dressing room today? maybe all the old sweats have retired and the current squad don't have an issue.

That then leaves the board and how they dealt with this. Do they suspect that Rafiq an average ageing player is looking for a pay day? Is that why they seem so tone deaf?

One more point

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I'm sure you're not suggesting I'm uneducated Dan, but I still maintain this whole thing has got out of hand. No worse than calling someone 'baldy' because he has no hair. My mates called me that after two sessions of Chemo caused all my hair to fall out. Jolly japes that's all.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.