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 silvertop  Portishead 02 Nov 21 2.48pm |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
I was skeptical about Vieira but have been impressed. My pie eating will wait until the end of the season though. We have become a pressing team. Almost all pressing teams have energy dips. We need to see whether we have one and how hard it hits us. Because despite our good play, our points per game has been the same as last year. The possible difference from last year is that we had a settled playing and coaching team and we deserved the points tally. Moreover, the trend set was likely to continue along a safe, flat curve and indeed did just that. This year we are transitional in both senses but many agree (including Shearer!) that our play merits more points. Given the transitional nature and our (hopefully) upwards learning curve, we all hope that our trajectory is better.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 02 Nov 21 3.00pm |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
I was skeptical about Vieira but have been impressed. My pie eating will wait until the end of the season though. We have become a pressing team. Almost all pressing teams have energy dips. We need to see whether we have one and how hard it hits us. Because despite our good play, our points per game has been the same as last year. That is a fair comment however if you look at the good pressing teams they nearly all play European football and progress in the cups ie they play a lot of games. We currently have limited exposure to those (unfortunately) and we have an almost fully fit squad so I would hope that anybody seen "flagging" will be rested. I genuinely believe we have the players for a certain amount of squad rotation now so I hope your idea that we might dip in energy is unfounded (well, at least until we are in Europe next year
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)| Pete53 Hassocks 02 Nov 21 3.51pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The main difference in our style this season is that we close down much better. We conceded ground far too easily before. Our passing from the back is also much improved. The back four has been the same every week, so far, and that has helped a lot. The improvements are largely about having better players and better coaching staff. PV can take some credit for encouraging more energetic football, but it is not just about him. We actually spent money, and that is something that has been needed for several years. And there seemed to be some joined up thinking and an actual strategy with our purchases,
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| manoftaste Hastings 02 Nov 21 3.56pm |
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Amuses (and disturbs) me the way media pundits who, just 2 months ago, assured us that Vieira was "untested at this level" and "inexperienced" and that Palace were nailed-on relegation favourites, are now telling us (when we played Arsenal) that Vieira will soon take up the reins at the Emirates, and (when we played City) that Vieira will certainly be their next manager when Guardiola goes in 2023.
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| YT Oxford 02 Nov 21 4.21pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I do like PV he seems very level headed. But wary of waxing too lyrical, we have only played 10 matches and squad depth is a worry in the winter months especially if there is a crop of injuries. The PL rich clubs simply do not have that problem. Certainly the club heading in a direction I could hardy ever have envisaged. Strange, then, that Man City persist with KDB, even though he clearly isn't fit.
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| slubglurge welling 02 Nov 21 7.10pm |
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The sign of a good manager is learn from your mistakes. Against Arsenal he made defensive sustitutions to protect out lead basically inviting them to score. Against City the exact opposite and we score a second goal.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 02 Nov 21 7.37pm |
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Originally posted by manoftaste
Amuses (and disturbs) me the way media pundits who, just 2 months ago, assured us that Vieira was "untested at this level" and "inexperienced" and that Palace were nailed-on relegation favourites, are now telling us (when we played Arsenal) that Vieira will soon take up the reins at the Emirates, and (when we played City) that Vieira will certainly be their next manager when Guardiola goes in 2023. But it shouldn't surprise you. Pundits talk an endless stream of twaddle.
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| Vaibow vancouver/croydon 03 Nov 21 3.35am |
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Originally posted by Mwncisee
OK so time for me to eat humble pie. Think it's been coming and after the events over the weekend and today its the nail in the coffin. In the summer I argued about how frustrating it was that we seemed so close to getting NES only for it to be scuppered by his demands at the last second and my argument was that we should just do it to get him......(ahem) I then argued that I was sceptical about getting PV as manager and that I felt people were putting too much into the fact he was a world class player but this does not necessarily mean he is a good manager.......(ahem) It seems hard to argue against me being very wrong and it seems only right that I put myself in the Homesdale Online stocks and take whatever you wish to throw at me! I too have been proven wrong, everything I have seen about PV I have liked and been impressed with.. he's quietly confident, he gets the job done, the press releases are to the point, when he speaks it's with purpose. The football has been very entertaining and dropping points has been unlucky, it's also good to see us give teams a go. when he signed I was underwhelmed, I didn't rate him, however, he's been a breath of fresh air.
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| johnmcormick8 Brundish 03 Nov 21 2.52pm |
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Aye your right there a pie dropping moment. Venner going and taking the team with him. Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
this is the thing right, sometimes there are external forces at play that pull the rug from underneath us and it all comes crashing down. When Freedman quit as manager we were 4th and when Bruce left we were top (I think?). Who saw either of those things coming.
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taylors lovechild  03 Nov 21 3.28pm |
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I was generally optimistic about Vieira and it seemed obvious to me that Gallagher would improve us, but I did not expect us to be as entertaining to watch as we have been. I also did not expect to see such a huge improvement in Ward and in particular Mitchell. Vieira seems to exude this calm, father-like figure which most of the team seem to openly welcome and the biggest thing is an obvious desire to play for the win, even against the biggest teams. As has been said, Vieira's real credentials will come to the fore when things don't go our way. He has a strong coaching setup around him, so hopefully he'll be ready. Nonetheless, if we do manage to sustain these performances across the whole season and are lucky with injuries then we may well be on the edges of the top eight, as so far only Chelsea and Liverpool have outplayed us and Eze hasn't even kicked a ball for the first team yet (plus Olise is chomping at the bit). It feels good to be alive as a Palace fan right now
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| topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 03 Nov 21 3.35pm |
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Lucien Favre was my first choice and I was annoyed that we couldn't get him. Steve Cooper and Sean Dyche could have got us a similar number of points but I think the football would have been very similar to what we have become used to. Although I would have liked wins over Brighton and Arse, I'm very happy with the ways things are at the moment. Perhaps those draws will keep us all more level headed in mid to bottom half of the table.
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| herefordeagle Hereford 04 Nov 21 4.38pm |
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Echoing some sentiments. Dyche and Howe were branded around for a long time as Hodgsons successor -i definitely did not want either. NES and Favre were on the brink and I was absolutely devastated that we didn't get either over the line. Then up popped PV...for me an unknown quantity but I was pleased simply because it wasn't Howe or Dyche. Genuinely didn't know what to expect from him but I can safely say I already love the man. He's humble. He uses subs at the right time and for the right reason. He realises that we can go toe to toe with any side and that belief is installed in the players and the supporters. I know it is early but if good things take time then providing that we can hold onto him then exciting times lie in wait Edited by herefordeagle (04 Nov 2021 4.39pm)
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