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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Sep 21 10.07am
Originally posted by kuge Indeed it's not a case of cheap labour from Europe, it's labour from Europe. HGV drivers are relatively well paid. Despite the fact that we have unemployed people in the UK there is a shortage of people with specific skills in many areas. Fruit pickers, (yes they are skilled), NHS staff, etc are all required. The fact that the government took no steps to train people to do this work over the past decade can only be explained by incompetence and arrogance. If somebody has good pay and decent conditions and enjoys their job, they'll do it. I'd say that the evidence is pointing to there being a lot of Eastern European lorry drivers. They would have got their licences from the armed services. If they're not coming back, it's suggesting that there's something equivalent or better for them to do. Perhaps being asked to register p1ssed some off, but there's obviously more going on. I have an HGV licence but haven't used it for years. Nor would I, as the traffic would give me a heart attack from the stress. The traffic here, combined with the state of the roads is awful. Anyway, have a much better job these days - another reason. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Sep 21 10.07am

Originally posted by kuge

Indeed it's not a case of cheap labour from Europe, it's labour from Europe. HGV drivers are relatively well paid. Despite the fact that we have unemployed people in the UK there is a shortage of people with specific skills in many areas. Fruit pickers, (yes they are skilled), NHS staff, etc are all required. The fact that the government took no steps to train people to do this work over the past decade can only be explained by incompetence and arrogance.

If somebody has good pay and decent conditions and enjoys their job, they'll do it. I'd say that the evidence is pointing to there being a lot of Eastern European lorry drivers. They would have got their licences from the armed services. If they're not coming back, it's suggesting that there's something equivalent or better for them to do. Perhaps being asked to register p1ssed some off, but there's obviously more going on. I have an HGV licence but haven't used it for years. Nor would I, as the traffic would give me a heart attack from the stress. The traffic here, combined with the state of the roads is awful. Anyway, have a much better job these days - another reason.

Red and Blue Army!

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Orange1290 24 Sep 21 12.11pm
"Queues form at petrol stations as drivers urged not to panic buy" [Link] Don't panic Captain Mainwaring! Also looks like huge increase in imports of Turkeys from Poland and France due to UK farms not having the resources to produce their own this year. Nothing to do with Brexit of course, lol. Edited by Orange1290 (24 Sep 2021 12.11pm) Pro China, EU & Palestine
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"Queues form at petrol stations as drivers urged not to panic buy"

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Don't panic Captain Mainwaring! Also looks like huge increase in imports of Turkeys from Poland and France due to UK farms not having the resources to produce their own this year. Nothing to do with Brexit of course, lol.

Edited by Orange1290 (24 Sep 2021 12.11pm)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 24 Sep 21 12.24pm
Originally posted by Orange1290 "Queues form at petrol stations as drivers urged not to panic buy" [Link] Don't panic Captain Mainwaring! Also looks like huge increase in imports of Turkeys from Poland and France due to UK farms not having the resources to produce their own this year. Nothing to do with Brexit of course, lol. Edited by Orange1290 (24 Sep 2021 12.11pm) The media have created this fuel stupidity. It’s been fine for the last couple of weeks with just some pumps closed. Now the media have caused panic buying and filling up cars with fuel they don’t need now. And the issues in Britain go further than we’ve messed everything up by reducing imported cheaper labour. It can be argued that is the underlying issue. You think the CO2 shortage is because of Brexit? Maybe you should look at your green chums. The gas shortage has closed fertiliser factories which create CO2. The CO2 is used to stun and package meat. I’m intrigued to know how much this is because of Brexit. I’ll wait. Lol COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 24 Sep 21 12.24pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

"Queues form at petrol stations as drivers urged not to panic buy"

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Edited by Orange1290 (24 Sep 2021 12.11pm)

The media have created this fuel stupidity. It’s been fine for the last couple of weeks with just some pumps closed. Now the media have caused panic buying and filling up cars with fuel they don’t need now. And the issues in Britain go further than we’ve messed everything up by reducing imported cheaper labour. It can be argued that is the underlying issue.

You think the CO2 shortage is because of Brexit? Maybe you should look at your green chums. The gas shortage has closed fertiliser factories which create CO2. The CO2 is used to stun and package meat. I’m intrigued to know how much this is because of Brexit. I’ll wait. Lol

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 24 Sep 21 12.40pm
What happens after panic buying of fuel is when these idiots don’t need the fuel they don’t use in their cars, the petrol stations have no queues COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 24 Sep 21 12.40pm

What happens after panic buying of fuel is when these idiots don’t need the fuel they don’t use in their cars, the petrol stations have no queues

COYP

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kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 24 Sep 21 1.21pm
there was no Tattinger available in Waitrose today either ! we're on the brink Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents? Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.
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Sussex, ex-Cronx. 24 Sep 21 1.21pm

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there was no Tattinger available in Waitrose today either !
we're on the brink

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 24 Sep 21 2.15pm
Originally posted by cryrst Did you know that in April all HGV drivers had to go PAYE. IR 35 rules. Prior to that they were contracted. Now why would brexit cause loads of foreign drivers to go home? In reality its because they couldn't carry on fiddling the tax. Research would prevent all this nonsense CP. At least you won't struggle with your capitalist existence along with all your philanthropic ways! Brexit sent them home and now we are trying to find a face saving way to beg them back- nothing to do with capitalism mate! Oh for the days when you could get a full shop in the supermarket, a doctors appointment,turn your heating on and enjoy hot water every day, thats the choice our old folks living alone have, yes, its working well mate!
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Any european country i fancy! 24 Sep 21 2.15pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Did you know that in April all HGV drivers had to go PAYE. IR 35 rules. Prior to that they were contracted. Now why would brexit cause loads of foreign drivers to go home? In reality its because they couldn't carry on fiddling the tax. Research would prevent all this nonsense CP.
At least you won't struggle with your capitalist existence along with all your philanthropic ways!

Brexit sent them home and now we are trying to find a face saving way to beg them back- nothing to do with capitalism mate! Oh for the days when you could get a full shop in the supermarket, a doctors appointment,turn your heating on and enjoy hot water every day, thats the choice our old folks living alone have, yes, its working well mate!

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 24 Sep 21 2.19pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Maybe the extended bin delivery times have something to do with local councils trying to save money? Most Counciks seem to take penny pinching to the extreme these days Certainly seemed to be a reason in 2019 [Link] Edited by Spiderman (24 Sep 2021 7.51am) The once weekly to once fortnightly was definately penny pinching spider, the three week wait is down to no drivewrs-as they have being poached.
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Any european country i fancy! 24 Sep 21 2.19pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Maybe the extended bin delivery times have something to do with local councils trying to save money? Most Counciks seem to take penny pinching to the extreme these days
Certainly seemed to be a reason in 2019

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Edited by Spiderman (24 Sep 2021 7.51am)

The once weekly to once fortnightly was definately penny pinching spider, the three week wait is down to no drivewrs-as they have being poached.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 24 Sep 21 2.40pm
Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall there was no Tattinger available in Waitrose today either ! we're on the brink Ha ha, on the brink indeed King. on the brink indeed!
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 24 Sep 21 2.40pm

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

there was no Tattinger available in Waitrose today either !
we're on the brink

Ha ha, on the brink indeed King. on the brink indeed!

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 24 Sep 21 2.56pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Brexit sent them home and now we are trying to find a face saving way to beg them back- nothing to do with capitalism mate! Oh for the days when you could get a full shop in the supermarket, a doctors appointment,turn your heating on and enjoy hot water every day, thats the choice our old folks living alone have, yes, its working well mate! [Link] Brexit must be affecting us over here as well? The problem is waaaaaay to many UBER drivers not enough Truck drivers Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 24 Sep 21 2.56pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

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Brexit must be affecting us over here as well? The problem is waaaaaay to many UBER drivers not enough Truck drivers

Pro USA & Israel

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 24 Sep 21 3.00pm
Originally posted by Jimenez [Link] Brexit must be affecting us over here as well? The problem is waaaaaay to many UBER drivers not enough Truck drivers Joe will sort it Jim, you are lucky you have him and not bojo! Show them uber boys the $$$$$$$$$ and the problem is solved!
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Any european country i fancy! 24 Sep 21 3.00pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

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Brexit must be affecting us over here as well? The problem is waaaaaay to many UBER drivers not enough Truck drivers

Joe will sort it Jim, you are lucky you have him and not bojo! Show them uber boys the $$$$$$$$$ and the problem is solved!

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becky over the moon 24 Sep 21 3.31pm
If the driver shortage is all down to Brexit, how come that it's only reared it's head now, some21 months after we left the EU? Things were fine up to 3 months ago....... A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 24 Sep 21 3.31pm

If the driver shortage is all down to Brexit, how come that it's only reared it's head now, some21 months after we left the EU?

Things were fine up to 3 months ago.......

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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AuntyAnne70 Tunbridge WElls 24 Sep 21 3.52pm
Perhaps not all down to Brexit, but Rod McKenzie of the RHA, states that the 20,000 European drivers who have left the country have left a big hole!
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Tunbridge WElls 24 Sep 21 3.52pm

Perhaps not all down to Brexit, but Rod McKenzie of the RHA, states that the 20,000 European drivers who have left the country have left a big hole!

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