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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 13 Aug 21 4.58pm
Originally posted by croydon proud I was just breaking news as it was on the sky news as I was typing, wasn"t linking it in any way other than to say what a sad day it is, another child taken, not linking it in any other way.But you did say you would never respond to a post of mine again- I hope me reporting that this murderer worked at Devonport didn"t make you change your mind, you been ex navy, it was just facts, nothing against the navy! Oh dear, you just have. NS This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 13 Aug 21 4.58pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

I was just breaking news as it was on the sky news as I was typing, wasn"t linking it in any way other than to say what a sad day it is, another child taken, not linking it in any other way.But you did say you would never respond to a post of mine again- I hope me reporting that this murderer worked at Devonport didn"t make you change your mind, you been ex navy, it was just facts, nothing against the navy!

Oh dear, you just have. NS

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Aug 21 4.59pm
Originally posted by Mstrobez So basically you've been outed on your partisan & ideological bulls***, resorted to calling people right wing & when they give it back, you now come with this. Total clown. Like I said, people like you + the far right = 2 cheeks on the same arse. You are a Total Clown yourself! Although you have balanced it a bit with the far right comment so will leave it there.
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Any european country i fancy! 13 Aug 21 4.59pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

So basically you've been outed on your partisan & ideological bulls***, resorted to calling people right wing & when they give it back, you now come with this.

Total clown. Like I said, people like you + the far right = 2 cheeks on the same arse.

You are a Total Clown yourself! Although you have balanced it a bit with the far right comment so will leave it there.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Aug 21 5.00pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Oh dear, you just have. NS It wasn"t me who said it, it was you, just saying.
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Any european country i fancy! 13 Aug 21 5.00pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Oh dear, you just have. NS

It wasn"t me who said it, it was you, just saying.

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Stirlingsays 13 Aug 21 5.02pm
Originally posted by DanH Such a sad and tragic case for the victims. So concerning that online radicalisation seems to have played a big part again with the language he was using around being ‘black pilled’ and an ‘incel’ which contributed to his misogyny and anger. I do struggle with how this isn’t treated as a terrorist incident. He caused terror on seemingly random victims for a cause - seems like a terrorist act in nature. You are buying into false narratives that with a little thinking don't hold up. Firstly being 'online' makes little difference as we have these kind of shootings from disaffected before the online world from similar individuals.....Hungerford and so on. Secondly 'Incel' seems to be one of the groups that leftist hypocrites like to accuse of any trait they pretend to hate....yet don't speak about in their 'protected' groups who they give a pass to. The reality is that the vast majority of them would never do this. Yet these are people who your bubble are ok with slagging off aren't they Dan. Double standard much? As for spicy Orange, he's just delivering his anti white line of trolling. It's in bad taste due to the timing but I suppose bad taste is part of trolling. As some have said, thoughts are with the innocents in this. Taken away by a disaffected nutter.....the fact that a child was among them makes it even sadder. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Aug 2021 5.04pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Aug 21 5.02pm

Originally posted by DanH

Such a sad and tragic case for the victims. So concerning that online radicalisation seems to have played a big part again with the language he was using around being ‘black pilled’ and an ‘incel’ which contributed to his misogyny and anger. I do struggle with how this isn’t treated as a terrorist incident. He caused terror on seemingly random victims for a cause - seems like a terrorist act in nature.

You are buying into false narratives that with a little thinking don't hold up.

Firstly being 'online' makes little difference as we have these kind of shootings from disaffected before the online world from similar individuals.....Hungerford and so on.

Secondly 'Incel' seems to be one of the groups that leftist hypocrites like to accuse of any trait they pretend to hate....yet don't speak about in their 'protected' groups who they give a pass to.

The reality is that the vast majority of them would never do this. Yet these are people who your bubble are ok with slagging off aren't they Dan.

Double standard much?

As for spicy Orange, he's just delivering his anti white line of trolling. It's in bad taste due to the timing but I suppose bad taste is part of trolling.

As some have said, thoughts are with the innocents in this. Taken away by a disaffected nutter.....the fact that a child was among them makes it even sadder.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Aug 2021 5.04pm)

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Aug 21 5.09pm
Originally posted by cryrst Read the post again CP. If it was your descriptor in all honesty it would be about politics in some way or another. So would be terrorism. I read it again mate, he said he doesn"t know why its not terrorism if he was indoctronated online by the right wing stuff. I merely said, it he had a plo flag on facebook and a yasser pic, instead of a confererate and trump pic, people would call it terrorism, its not that important to be honest to me, I kind of liked the new HOL where we aren"t all arguing and won"t be getting dragged in to any on a sad thread like this.
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Any european country i fancy! 13 Aug 21 5.09pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Read the post again CP. If it was your descriptor in all honesty it would be about politics in some way or another. So would be terrorism.

I read it again mate, he said he doesn"t know why its not terrorism if he was indoctronated online by the right wing stuff. I merely said, it he had a plo flag on facebook and a yasser pic, instead of a confererate and trump pic, people would call it terrorism, its not that important to be honest to me, I kind of liked the new HOL where we aren"t all arguing and won"t be getting dragged in to any on a sad thread like this.

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Stirlingsays 13 Aug 21 5.12pm
Originally posted by croydon proud No, the chief constable has stated it was domestic, with randoms, then suicide, and i"m no ismalist terror lover, but just stating that if it was a palestinian flag, you on the right who jump on the band wagon, would definately suggest it was terrorism. What's the point of making culture war comments for this? That's just buying into spicy orange's trolling. Yet, this doesn't look like a terrorist attack or having any connection to a political motive. The socially disaffected killing via moral nihilism happened before the Internet and it happened before 'culture wars'. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Aug 2021 5.13pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Aug 21 5.12pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

No, the chief constable has stated it was domestic, with randoms, then suicide, and i"m no ismalist terror lover, but just stating that if it was a palestinian flag, you on the right who jump on the band wagon, would definately suggest it was terrorism.

What's the point of making culture war comments for this? That's just buying into spicy orange's trolling. Yet, this doesn't look like a terrorist attack or having any connection to a political motive.

The socially disaffected killing via moral nihilism happened before the Internet and it happened before 'culture wars'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Aug 2021 5.13pm)

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Matov 13 Aug 21 5.12pm
Originally posted by croydon proud I was just agreeing with Dan, and also stating the facts, no culture war here- he was a Trump loving gun toting murderer - and if he was a Arafat loving ,gun toting murderer-he would be described as a terrorist- just saying. Come off it. The entire thread is 100% 'Culture War', evidenced by the fact that you having to mention how he was 'Trump loving'. And actually, the OP has a point. If this had been a Muslim screaming all the usual out before topping 5 people, then us on the Right would have been bashing out all the usual tropes on our keyboards. Whilst you on the Left would have been telling us how it was really just mental illness and how you 'stand' with all law-abiding Muslims. We are all part of the same hypocrisy. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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13 Aug 21 5.12pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

I was just agreeing with Dan, and also stating the facts, no culture war here- he was a Trump loving gun toting murderer - and if he was a Arafat loving ,gun toting murderer-he would be described as a terrorist- just saying.

Come off it. The entire thread is 100% 'Culture War', evidenced by the fact that you having to mention how he was 'Trump loving'.

And actually, the OP has a point. If this had been a Muslim screaming all the usual out before topping 5 people, then us on the Right would have been bashing out all the usual tropes on our keyboards. Whilst you on the Left would have been telling us how it was really just mental illness and how you 'stand' with all law-abiding Muslims.

We are all part of the same hypocrisy.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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gambler Kent 13 Aug 21 5.13pm
R.i.p. to the victims. Thread didnt take long to go down the usual route did it.
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Kent 13 Aug 21 5.13pm

R.i.p. to the victims.

Thread didnt take long to go down the usual route did it.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Aug 21 5.16pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays What's the point of making culture war comments for this? That's just buying into spicy orange's trolling. Yet, this doesn't look like a terrorist attack or having any connection to a political motive. The socially disaffected killing via moral nihilism happened before the Internet and it happened before 'culture wars'. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Aug 2021 5.13pm) Fair point Stirling.
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Any european country i fancy! 13 Aug 21 5.16pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The socially disaffected killing via moral nihilism happened before the Internet and it happened before 'culture wars'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Aug 2021 5.13pm)

Fair point Stirling.

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Stirlingsays 13 Aug 21 5.16pm
Originally posted by Matov Come off it. The entire thread is 100% 'Culture War', evidenced by the fact that you having to mention how he was 'Trump loving'. And actually, the OP has a point. If this had been a Muslim screaming all the usual out before topping 5 people, then us on the Right would have been bashing out all the usual tropes on our keyboards. Whilst you on the Left would have been telling us how it was really just mental illness and how you 'stand' with all law-abiding Muslims. We are all part of the same hypocrisy. Less hypocrisy other than different worldviews. The OP isn't correct because no one on the right makes excuses for murderers on the right.....Also, the number of them isn't even comparable, yet has been focused upon for political reasons.....with people even being sent to jail based upon reading the wrong kind of books by activist judges.....Yet mosques with dodgey material are left alone. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Aug 2021 5.17pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Aug 21 5.16pm

Originally posted by Matov

Come off it. The entire thread is 100% 'Culture War', evidenced by the fact that you having to mention how he was 'Trump loving'.

We are all part of the same hypocrisy.

Less hypocrisy other than different worldviews.

The OP isn't correct because no one on the right makes excuses for murderers on the right.....Also, the number of them isn't even comparable, yet has been focused upon for political reasons.....with people even being sent to jail based upon reading the wrong kind of books by activist judges.....Yet mosques with dodgey material are left alone.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Aug 2021 5.17pm)

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Stirlingsays 13 Aug 21 5.19pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Fair point Stirling. It's just all incredibly sad. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Aug 21 5.19pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Fair point Stirling.

It's just all incredibly sad.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Aug 21 5.19pm
Originally posted by Matov Come off it. The entire thread is 100% 'Culture War', evidenced by the fact that you having to mention how he was 'Trump loving'. And actually, the OP has a point. If this had been a Muslim screaming all the usual out before topping 5 people, then us on the Right would have been bashing out all the usual tropes on our keyboards. Whilst you on the Left would have been telling us how it was really just mental illness and how you 'stand' with all law-abiding Muslims. We are all part of the same hypocrisy. Yes, to be honest I thought only today what hypocrites we are on here, left and right, you try and balance something out because of remembering a previous post, from long ago, thats why I mentioned the mental illness in my post, that has come up time and time againon here(lets not blame mental illness etc).
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Any european country i fancy! 13 Aug 21 5.19pm

Originally posted by Matov

Come off it. The entire thread is 100% 'Culture War', evidenced by the fact that you having to mention how he was 'Trump loving'.

We are all part of the same hypocrisy.

Yes, to be honest I thought only today what hypocrites we are on here, left and right, you try and balance something out because of remembering a previous post, from long ago, thats why I mentioned the mental illness in my post, that has come up time and time againon here(lets not blame mental illness etc).

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