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OldFella London 27 Jun 21 10.46am | |
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Originally posted by sprites
First up, I don’t need to toughen up one bit. Careful there. Secondly, I’m as far away from woke as it gets. All I’m saying is no one knows the bloody story and yet we’ve all hung Parish out to dry. It’s fine margins. If Favre signs, Parish is a hero who’s pulled off the coup of the season signing a manager of that ilk. Instead, an 11th hour change of heart (for personal reasons it sounds) and suddenly he’s incompetent and guilty or mismanagement etc. It’s fickle fans having no idea how the real world works. I for one am glad Steve’s in charge and I trust him to make the right decision for the club - like he’s always done. Made me laugh. Keyboard warrior from thousands of miles away. What a wally
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Elwissthebest Marlborough 27 Jun 21 10.53am | |
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'Fickle Fans'.
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Spiderman Horsham 27 Jun 21 10.56am | |
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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle
On the Favre situation, I think most people have at times talked to other employers about open positions where its nice to be linked with opportunities, its nice to feel that your stock is suitably well thought of to be wanted, maybe you go along to the interviews hoping that something is going to click to make you take the offer seriously, both sides talk, eventually at a certain point in time it gets serious, at that point you have to sign, or make clear your reservations to see if you can get closer to each other or if the gap between the employers & employees thinking is too great then you walk away. My guess (and its only a guess) is that with our situation, (players /contracts / relegation prospects) the amount of money available to achieve what was required isn't realistic & by the time that became apparent we would be fast approaching Christmas & the board would then have to make a decision to further back the manager in the Jan transfer window or bring in another fireman Sam style saviour, either way it makes for a very bumpy ride. I agree mostly, but for the club to have applied for a work permit suggested, at that stage, Favre was still onboard, this would basically be the last process required ( apart from the actual contract signing), so there must have been an issue with the club, promises made which could not be kept?
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jun 21 11.05am | |
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Originally posted by Elwissthebest
'Fickle Fans'. How many people in this country had actually heard of Pochettino when he was appointed manager of Southampton ?. He had left his previous club Espanyol with the club bottom of La Liga. Many thought that Southampton had taken leave of their senses when they replaced Nigel Adkins with Pochettino but the rest as they say is history.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 27 Jun 21 11.13am | |
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Originally posted by Swindy
Having followed the club for the best part of 50 years, every time that relegation from the top flight has happened in all that time (probably barring 1992-93), it has carried a certain inevitability. I don't understand your point about the Academy being more of an asset outside the Premiership. If it produces another AWB, that's £50m in potential income plus a home grown talent occupying a first team place. The Manager search has proven to be more difficult than thought. Of the supposed candidates, opinion on HOL has been extremely divided as to who should get the job. With little or no ' official ' updates coming out of the club, we are left to speculate. As you have done re the '' war chest ''. If Parish had someone in mind to replace Roy, then for whatever reason, it didn't happen. On the face of it, it looks like mismanagement but I think there is more to it than that. As an example, SP could not have legislated for the U-turn by Favre. With regards to the players contract situation, it's an unusual one for sure. Most of those players are past their best and some have been expensive non-playing liabilities. I for one would have signed Sakho on the back of his initial performances for us, but both his form and fitness have been a huge disappointment that I would not have predicted any more than SP could of. As for the club being '' established '' in the Premier, well other clubs have thought the same and look at say, Stoke now. You can't take it for granted. For the majority of clubs the definition of success is just staying in the league. So...have mistakes been made ? - Yes. Palace are not unique in that respect. Is Steve Parish beyond critisism ? - No. Nobody's perfect. What I do believe is that some people underestimate the size of the job he has done in keeping Palace in the Premier League. Edited by NEILLO (27 Jun 2021 11.14am)
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jun 21 11.21am | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
I don't understand your point about the Academy being more of an asset outside the Premiership. If it produces another AWB, that's £50m in potential income plus a home grown talent occupying a first team place. The Manager search has proven to be more difficult than thought. Of the supposed candidates, opinion on HOL has been extremely divided as to who should get the job. With little or no ' official ' updates coming out of the club, we are left to speculate. As you have done re the '' war chest ''. If Parish had someone in mind to replace Roy, then for whatever reason, it didn't happen. On the face of it, it looks like mismanagement but I think there is more to it than that. As an example, SP could not have legislated for the U-turn by Favre. With regards to the players contract situation, it's an unusual one for sure. Most of those players are past their best and some have been expensive non-playing liabilities. I for one would have signed Sakho on the back of his initial performances for us, but both his form and fitness have been a huge disappointment that I would not have predicted any more than SP could of. As for the club being '' established '' in the Premier, well other clubs have thought the same and look at say, Stoke now. You can't take it for granted. For the majority of clubs the definition of success is just staying in the league. So...have mistakes been made ? - Yes. Palace are not unique in that respect. Is Steve Parish beyond critisism ? - No. Nobody's perfect. What I do believe is that some people underestimate the size of the job he has done in keeping Palace in the Premier League. Edited by NEILLO (27 Jun 2021 11.14am) I for one is not one of these people. In actual fact, only last night I made such comments to a chap in a local establishment, the response being that I was being supportive for obvious reasons !!!! Edited by Willo (27 Jun 2021 11.26am)
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sprites Auckland 27 Jun 21 11.27am | |
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Originally posted by OldFella
Made me laugh. Keyboard warrior from thousands of miles away. What a wally Nice one old fella. Can’t say I’ve been called a Wally for a while. I’ll take it.
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sprites Auckland 27 Jun 21 11.29am | |
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Originally posted by Elwissthebest
'Fickle Fans'. Yep, sounds like a plan. Let’s do that
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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 27 Jun 21 11.35am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Batshuayi was a loanee not a contracted player so he's doesn't really count. Yes, he does we were paying him 90k a week, not Chelsea, and he has gone
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jun 21 11.47am | |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
Yes, he does we were paying him 90k a week, not Chelsea, and he has gone Batshuayi started 7 games, and was substitute in 11 games.
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Swindy Bromley 27 Jun 21 11.58am | |
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dreamwaverider London 27 Jun 21 1.32pm | |
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Originally posted by sprites
First up, I don’t need to toughen up one bit. Careful there. Secondly, I’m as far away from woke as it gets. All I’m saying is no one knows the bloody story and yet we’ve all hung Parish out to dry. It’s fine margins. If Favre signs, Parish is a hero who’s pulled off the coup of the season signing a manager of that ilk. Instead, an 11th hour change of heart (for personal reasons it sounds) and suddenly he’s incompetent and guilty or mismanagement etc. It’s fickle fans having no idea how the real world works. I for one am glad Steve’s in charge and I trust him to make the right decision for the club - like he’s always done.
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