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Ouzo Dan Behind you 17 Jun 21 8.07pm | |
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The pay for vegetable pickers is always minimum wage, the only time this goes up is during peak harvest times of the season, you get an extra £1 hour for being a supervisor. It is £25 per person a week to rent a static caravan including electricity. When these people are not working they're usually getting pissed cooking klobasa on a BBQ, feeding ducks and smoking weed. every other figure you hear on this thread regarding veg pickers is bollocks. Source my Slovak gf who picked vegetables for 5 years on a farm in Worcester. Slovak minimum wage is €2.33 an hour there is no shortage of workers coming from europe. fin Edited by Ouzo Dan (17 Jun 2021 8.08pm)
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Spiderman Horsham 17 Jun 21 8.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
The pay for vegetable pickers is always minimum wage, the only time this goes up is during peak harvest times of the season, you get an extra £1 hour for being a supervisor. It is £25 per person a week to rent a static caravan including electricity. When these people are not working they're usually getting pissed cooking klobasa on a BBQ, feeding ducks and smoking weed. every other figure you hear on this thread regarding veg pickers is bollocks. Source my Slovak gf who picked vegetables for 5 years on a farm in Worcester. Slovak minimum wage is €2.33 an hour there is no shortage of workers coming from europe. fin Edited by Ouzo Dan (17 Jun 2021 8.08pm) Exactly myself and wife have seen many contracts of farm workers, it is bordering on slave labour
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becky over the moon 17 Jun 21 8.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Where i used to live in East Sussex, loads of farmers had voting posters FOR Brexit along their hedge field borders. Without exception. A lot of crop/milk producers were being squeezed on price by the big supermarkets, and I know of at least one producer for Tesco who couldn't be @rsed with it any more. All the farmers I know and have met have never been short of a few quid. What's happened down here is that a lot of the smaller milk producers have started putting dispensing machines in farm shops (and in our village the fruit and veg shop) and selling direct to the customer on a 'fill your own container' basis. It's beautiful, full fat slightly heat treated and tastes like the milk you used to get from the milkman years ago.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 17 Jun 21 8.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Exactly myself and wife have seen many contracts of farm workers, it is bordering on slave labour There’s something very wrong with flying people in to pay them very little to live in sh1tty caravans, even if they’re earning more than at home. Very arrogant, and feels worse that prices wouldn’t rise that much to pay people wanting to work here, who need proper pay considering how much more living costs are here than in Romania or in w caravan on a British farm.
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Ouzo Dan Behind you 17 Jun 21 8.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Exactly myself and wife have seen many contracts of farm workers, it is bordering on slave labour Yeah the farms here and across the EU do take the piss a bit as it is a genuine honest bit of hard work that does deserve more for the graft that is put in however its hard to blame the farmer when supermarkets more or less dictate what they are paying. Honestly though the 25/30 people I know through my GF (Slovaks,Czechs,Poles,Ukrainians,Hungarians) all speak really positively of working on the farms in England, most will do 2-3 seasons before heading home and finding a decently paid job out this way. Truth is low income workers are treated appallingly in this part of the world and see the £8.21 an hour they're offered to work in England vs the £2 hour they'll get here & jump at the chance at 4x their wages, obvious you have to be of the right mindset to do it but there is no shortage of people keen to travel, meet people, see new things and earn a fortune vs what they'd get waiting in a hotel. Edited by Ouzo Dan (17 Jun 2021 8.48pm)
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 17 Jun 21 9.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
Yeah the farms here and across the EU do take the piss a bit as it is a genuine honest bit of hard work that does deserve more for the graft that is put in however its hard to blame the farmer when supermarkets more or less dictate what they are paying. Honestly though the 25/30 people I know through my GF (Slovaks,Czechs,Poles,Ukrainians,Hungarians) all speak really positively of working on the farms in England, most will do 2-3 seasons before heading home and finding a decently paid job out this way. Truth is low income workers are treated appallingly in this part of the world and see the £8.21 an hour they're offered to work in England vs the £2 hour they'll get here & jump at the chance at 4x their wages, obvious you have to be of the right mindset to do it but there is no shortage of people keen to travel, meet people, see new things and earn a fortune vs what they'd get waiting in a hotel. Edited by Ouzo Dan (17 Jun 2021 8.48pm)
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imashed surrey 17 Jun 21 10.40pm | |
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Would be a great job for all the beggers on the streets of London if the really want to work for money.
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AuntyAnne70 Tunbridge WElls 17 Jun 21 11.02pm | |
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Such compassion! As you know so much about why they are begging not!
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Badger11 Beckenham 17 Jun 21 11.29pm | |
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Originally posted by AuntyAnne70
Such compassion! As you know so much about why they are begging not! Most beggars are not homeless. I have friends who volunteer at homeless charities people who are genuinely on the streets are not the ones you see outside shops with their dog and placard. Those people tend to be addicts of one sort or another so giving them money is just enabling their addiction. Give money direct to Shelter or The Passage if you want to help the homeless or the various addiction charities.
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 17 Jun 21 11.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Most beggars are not homeless. I have friends who volunteer at homeless charities people who are genuinely on the streets are not the ones you see outside shops with their dog and placard. Those people tend to be addicts of one sort or another so giving them money is just enabling their addiction. Give money direct to Shelter or The Passage if you want to help the homeless or the various addiction charities. I concur. Many ‘beggars’ are career beggars. Many homeless don’t beg.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 18 Jun 21 1.27pm | |
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EU approved and condoned Originally posted by Spiderman
Exactly myself and wife have seen many contracts of farm workers, it is bordering on slave labour
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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 18 Jun 21 2.34pm | |
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Originally posted by chris123
How can Australia export beef and lamb to the UK - the transport costs surely make it impossible to be competitive. Interesting point ... maybe the meat is already overpriced to start with?
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