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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 10 Mar 21 11.15am
Originally posted by davenotamonkey Worth noting that the Telegraph has done the same: they had a video piece on "ask the 'British' public" who they sided with - of course limited to filming in London, they managed to interview about 3 (of the 6 or 7) that were certainly (by accent) not from the UK. I think only one of them (ex forces) came in heavily behind the RF.... and yet, you then look at their click-polling within the articles and it's overwhelmingly in support of the RF. They have, of course, disabled all commentary on all of their "Mrs and Mr Markle" pieces. I guess my point is, there's a lot of narrative-rigging around, even among news sources you would expect to counter the Steeley-Grauniad's "off with their heads" pieces. Spot on Dave "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 10 Mar 21 11.15am

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Worth noting that the Telegraph has done the same: they had a video piece on "ask the 'British' public" who they sided with - of course limited to filming in London, they managed to interview about 3 (of the 6 or 7) that were certainly (by accent) not from the UK. I think only one of them (ex forces) came in heavily behind the RF.... and yet, you then look at their click-polling within the articles and it's overwhelmingly in support of the RF. They have, of course, disabled all commentary on all of their "Mrs and Mr Markle" pieces.

I guess my point is, there's a lot of narrative-rigging around, even among news sources you would expect to counter the Steeley-Grauniad's "off with their heads" pieces.

Spot on Dave

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Mar 21 11.17am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yep completely agree. Most if not all media lies regardless of political side.....they are paid to present an opinion. Often it's a matter of finding the most honest out there....which isn't easy in of itself but can be found in independent journalists...Whose that are honest about their perspective. Even then it's most likely that we are all just seeking out reflections of our own opinions and then fooling ourselves. In the past, one assumed that the influences brought to bear on what we see and read in the media and popular culture are from reasonable people, but on later analysis it emerges that they are often people with limited sense and with absolutely no capacity for objectivity. Sadly, they are always likely to be far to the Left and or often with their own axes to grind.
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10 Mar 21 11.17am

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep completely agree.

Most if not all media lies regardless of political side.....they are paid to present an opinion.

Often it's a matter of finding the most honest out there....which isn't easy in of itself but can be found in independent journalists...Whose that are honest about their perspective.

Even then it's most likely that we are all just seeking out reflections of our own opinions and then fooling ourselves.

In the past, one assumed that the influences brought to bear on what we see and read in the media and popular culture are from reasonable people, but on later analysis it emerges that they are often people with limited sense and with absolutely no capacity for objectivity.
Sadly, they are always likely to be far to the Left and or often with their own axes to grind.

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Spiderman Horsham 10 Mar 21 11.17am
Originally posted by Belmont You make some fair points but all sorts of people are throwing accusations around, who are in the public eye (obviously because of the interview and we could debate whether it should have happened but it's done now) which currently they have no proof of which to my mind is equally wrong. In my own personal opinion I think she has been treated badly by the press, on the rest of it how can I possibly judge without being privy to all the facts. The press do seem to revel in treating people badly. Diana had a hard time, even Kate has had her moments. They do it to sportspeople all the time, doubt they will ever learn. I respect your view and yes, all sorts of accusations being thrown around, unfortunately mainly caused by the interview leaving many threads dangling. Presumably intentionally
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Horsham 10 Mar 21 11.17am

Originally posted by Belmont

You make some fair points but all sorts of people are throwing accusations around, who are in the public eye (obviously because of the interview and we could debate whether it should have happened but it's done now) which currently they have no proof of which to my mind is equally wrong.

In my own personal opinion I think she has been treated badly by the press, on the rest of it how can I possibly judge without being privy to all the facts.

The press do seem to revel in treating people badly. Diana had a hard time, even Kate has had her moments. They do it to sportspeople all the time, doubt they will ever learn.
I respect your view and yes, all sorts of accusations being thrown around, unfortunately mainly caused by the interview leaving many threads dangling. Presumably intentionally

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Spiderman Horsham 10 Mar 21 11.20am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yep completely agree. Most if not all media lies regardless of political side.....they are paid to present an opinion. And we find even 'conservative' media acting as gate keepers. Often it's a matter of finding the most honest out there....which isn't easy in of itself but can be found in independent journalists...Those that are honest about their perspective. Even then it's most likely that we are all just seeking out reflections of our own opinions and then fooling ourselves otherwise. True objectivity is impossible. I've come to realise that in life you do really have to pick a side...but that doesn't mean that you don't self reflect and be fair yourself...just not to a self harming extent. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Mar 2021 11.17am) Well having picked Palace as my side, self harming is never far from my thoughts!
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Horsham 10 Mar 21 11.20am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep completely agree.

Most if not all media lies regardless of political side.....they are paid to present an opinion. And we find even 'conservative' media acting as gate keepers.

Often it's a matter of finding the most honest out there....which isn't easy in of itself but can be found in independent journalists...Those that are honest about their perspective.

Even then it's most likely that we are all just seeking out reflections of our own opinions and then fooling ourselves otherwise.

True objectivity is impossible.

I've come to realise that in life you do really have to pick a side...but that doesn't mean that you don't self reflect and be fair yourself...just not to a self harming extent.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Mar 2021 11.17am)

Well having picked Palace as my side, self harming is never far from my thoughts!

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Eaglehamster Storrington 10 Mar 21 11.29am
I'm reminded of Mock the Week's Ed Byrne. It was the "This is the answer, what is the question" round, the answer being 150,000,000. His response was: "Is this the number of times I'd have to punch Piers Morgan in the face, before it stopped being a pleasure and became a duty?" I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.
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Storrington 10 Mar 21 11.29am

I'm reminded of Mock the Week's Ed Byrne.
It was the "This is the answer, what is the question" round, the answer being 150,000,000. His response was:

"Is this the number of times I'd have to punch Piers Morgan in the face, before it stopped being a pleasure and became a duty?"

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

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Stirlingsays 10 Mar 21 11.33am
Originally posted by Spiderman Well having picked Palace as my side, self harming is never far from my thoughts! Indeed, Spider, indeed. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

10 Mar 21 11.33am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Well having picked Palace as my side, self harming is never far from my thoughts!

Indeed, Spider, indeed.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Mar 21 12.13pm
Originally posted by Belmont You make some fair points but all sorts of people are throwing accusations around, who are in the public eye (obviously because of the interview and we could debate whether it should have happened but it's done now) which currently they have no proof of which to my mind is equally wrong. In my own personal opinion I think she has been treated badly by the press, on the rest of it how can I possibly judge without being privy to all the facts. All women who marry big news royal princes get treated badly by the press. Kate got treated really badly too, but it eventually stops. Mrs and Mr Markle ignore or forget that and just focus on Meghan getting it while Kate wasn’t getting it at the same time. I’m not excusing it and I along with millions of people don’t take much notice of it. If they ignore it it goes away. Play the game, give them their baby photos and they’ll leave you alone. What Harry forgets is that the press are crucial to the royal family in keeping them the royal family receiving millions each year of tax payers’ money. The queen and senior royals understand this from experience and crises and the decades since WWII. If this is why he wants out then fine, but please give this nonsense up. She wasn’t singled out. She got what Diana, Fergie and Kate got and didn’t like it. I understand that. Just give up the nauseating me me me and self indulgent pity me act. Some of the young might fall for it but the majority do not, I promise you. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 10 Mar 21 12.13pm

Originally posted by Belmont

In my own personal opinion I think she has been treated badly by the press, on the rest of it how can I possibly judge without being privy to all the facts.

All women who marry big news royal princes get treated badly by the press. Kate got treated really badly too, but it eventually stops. Mrs and Mr Markle ignore or forget that and just focus on Meghan getting it while Kate wasn’t getting it at the same time. I’m not excusing it and I along with millions of people don’t take much notice of it. If they ignore it it goes away. Play the game, give them their baby photos and they’ll leave you alone. What Harry forgets is that the press are crucial to the royal family in keeping them the royal family receiving millions each year of tax payers’ money. The queen and senior royals understand this from experience and crises and the decades since WWII. If this is why he wants out then fine, but please give this nonsense up. She wasn’t singled out. She got what Diana, Fergie and Kate got and didn’t like it. I understand that. Just give up the nauseating me me me and self indulgent pity me act. Some of the young might fall for it but the majority do not, I promise you.

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Mar 21 12.15pm
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Mar 21 12.15pm
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Caterham 10 Mar 21 12.15pm

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Mar 21 12.15pm
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Caterham 10 Mar 21 12.15pm

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Mar 21 12.19pm
Originally posted by Spiderman The press do seem to revel in treating people badly. Diana had a hard time, even Kate has had her moments. They do it to sportspeople all the time, doubt they will ever learn. I respect your view and yes, all sorts of accusations being thrown around, unfortunately mainly caused by the interview leaving many threads dangling. Presumably intentionally They really should have Andrew Neill interview them individually and then together in the same few hour slot. I’d expect a few ‘‘What we meant was’’ answers, followed by Neill picking it all apart to reveal that they were a couple happy with themselves but unhappy with where they were. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 10 Mar 21 12.19pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

They really should have Andrew Neill interview them individually and then together in the same few hour slot. I’d expect a few ‘‘What we meant was’’ answers, followed by Neill picking it all apart to reveal that they were a couple happy with themselves but unhappy with where they were.

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Belmont 10 Mar 21 12.23pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman All women who marry big news royal princes get treated badly by the press. Kate got treated really badly too, but it eventually stops. Mrs and Mr Markle ignore or forget that and just focus on Meghan getting it while Kate wasn’t getting it at the same time. I’m not excusing it and I along with millions of people don’t take much notice of it. If they ignore it it goes away. Play the game, give them their baby photos and they’ll leave you alone. What Harry forgets is that the press are crucial to the royal family in keeping them the royal family receiving millions each year of tax payers’ money. The queen and senior royals understand this from experience and crises and the decades since WWII. If this is why he wants out then fine, but please give this nonsense up. She wasn’t singled out. She got what Diana, Fergie and Kate got and didn’t like it. I understand that. Just give up the nauseating me me me and self indulgent pity me act. Some of the young might fall for it but the majority do not, I promise you. I was really talking about the main stream British press and the attached example seems to have different perspectives when you compare the two Attachment: Ev_A4WfXYAYdioI.jpg (146.64Kb)
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10 Mar 21 12.23pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I was really talking about the main stream British press and the attached example seems to have different perspectives when you compare the two

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