Most of us aren't stupid and realise that London is essentially the money laundering capital of the world. I guess since they almost invented capitalism then they had a head start. I guess capitalism is always going to do its best to make the most money it can. However, we also live in a welfare state, where, as you suggest, services are diminishing.
How then is it helpful to allow economic migrants come to a place with diminishing services? It's not good for the poor indigenous people, or the people arriving. A state of conflict becomes almost inevitable as 90 percent of people compete for the one percent of available capital and resources.
If you look back over these threads, there are several posts where people say they don't blame these immigrants for trying. Most people want to benefit themselves and have a decent life. No one can be blamed for that.
However, people are blaming governments, agencies and people who try to help them, and it's even worse when some call out for more in the name of some kind of perverse self harm.
If our services are diminishing protect them. Don't spread them thinner with people who, frankly, have zero right to access them.
As for your housing and German suggestions. Firstly, I guess you have never lived in a room with a few people to share the rent. And you won't recognise that even right near you are several house fulls of people. And all our kids will afford houses? Nothing to do with supply?
right.
Germany - a growing actual far right. Rather than the silly imagined one here. Major parties now, capable of being part of a coalition that would topple Merkel, and not far off it. Why - these are all fascists? The Nazi's never ended? No, their modern day experience of a sudden influx of incompatible people. High crime areas that never existed before. New Ghettos. In some areas Erdogan is more famous than Merkel. I could list worse but won't.
One has to suspect that in many places in England they think Imran Khan is President too.
If you can't take any of this in fair enough. What the Capitalists do, I'm not 100% sure we can stop right now, but illegal immigration we can complain. Why are we vilified and gagged though, why is it racist? These are the real considerations.

Red and Blue Army!

The economic system you are referring to isn't specific to us it's global. To remove it would require revolution.

Reading your criticisms of the financial sector I'm reminded of a few rather deeply infamous figures of the past with similar criticisms.

It's something both ends of the left and right agree on but when we see you views on third world foreigners we see the difference.

You just don't like the higher end of the globalized system, whereas you're fine with our country being replaced with low wage foreigners.

Again, you state we blame them, when this point was already correctly answered....we don't.

We simply put our indigenous people first.....just like every country outside of Europe does.

The people we blame are the far left organisations and activists working to take Europe away from Europeans and the neo liberal capitalists, who will never live with the problem, looking to gain new debt slaves on lower wages.

Immigration can be solved with political will and the willingness to stand up to the elites......However, removing the elites themselves and changing the system is order of magnitude more radical and difficult.

Orban would be the correct future for the UK.....but we don't have an Orban yet and the time is running out.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Booming with debt you mean?

You kind of answered why yourself, it's because the globalized financial system isn't running the politicians and hence system in those countries.

Hungary however under Orban appears to be doing well....playing between the globalized EU and a nationalist worldview.

It's why throwing the baby out with the bathwater probably isn't the answer

As for these former Soviet satellites they are still in recovery from communism, which also came with crippling corruption, which itself discourages investment..the corruption is still there...You see, the system you run is less important than the reality of who runs it...humans. Aristotle had some sensible thoughts on who should rule thousands of years ago....and for those who haven't read the Republic the conclusion was that money and leaders was a very bad idea.

As the Bible says, money is the root of all evil...though we should probably really call it greed and its system attracts the worst vices and gives out the highest rewards.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Simple. To change things, we need to focus on the levers of power, not the people who are at best the results of policies.

To this end, voting Tory to try and change things is akin to turkeys voting for Christmas.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

The chancellor is worth £2 billion- just thought i"d throw that in, in case anybody reading this in days didn"t know, thats £ 2000 million- just in case anybodys maths isn"t great,mind boggling, married in to it to be fair on him but still , just rememberas you take a leisurely drive through the cotswolds, we"re all in this together!

It's worth looking at for sure.

Let's take the past few years. We've had the hostile environment, repeated efforts to reduce net migration to below 100 thousand and of course Brexit.

Just flicking through the Evening Standard's coverage of Goldman Sachs in that time is a good way of gauging how they feel...

'Overseas investors shrug off Brexit jitters by investing £7billion on London offices', while 'Goldman Sachs vice-chairman Richard Gnodde said the long lease of its Plumtree Court site “demonstrates our continued commitment to London” (2017) [Link]

Revealed: New £1bn London HQ of Goldman Sachs - which boasts resting rooms for tired bankers, lactation suites for mothers, a nursery and pre-school (2019) [Link]

"The boss of Goldman Sachs has admitted that the impact of Brexit has not been as bad as he expected it to be" [Link]

Migration, ultimately, doesn't affect their bottom line. Put in more robust financial regulation, increase corporation tax and close down our offshore principalities, however...

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4