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DanH SW2 28 May 20 12.14pm
Originally posted by IMpalace "Shoving the same message down their throats for weeks". This broke in the news 6 days ago. Obviously the more to the right they are the less likely they are to sack him, he's a Tory advisor! The assertion that this is just a few people trying to stir trouble (lefties, remainers or whoever else we want to try and blame this on) is palpably false. The majority of the population, the majority of brexit voters and an almost even split of Tory voters think he should resign. As I said, if there was an apology and an admittance of guilt, fine. Instead, we get barefaced lies and assertions that "reasonable people" will agree this is a non issue. In reality people across the political spectrum disagree. All very depressing. Edited by IMpalace (28 May 2020 11.53am) They either don't think they've done anything wrong or see saying sorry as a sign of weakness. It's really quite sociopathic.
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DanH

SW2 28 May 20 12.14pm

Originally posted by IMpalace

"Shoving the same message down their throats for weeks". This broke in the news 6 days ago.

Obviously the more to the right they are the less likely they are to sack him, he's a Tory advisor!

The assertion that this is just a few people trying to stir trouble (lefties, remainers or whoever else we want to try and blame this on) is palpably false. The majority of the population, the majority of brexit voters and an almost even split of Tory voters think he should resign.

As I said, if there was an apology and an admittance of guilt, fine. Instead, we get barefaced lies and assertions that "reasonable people" will agree this is a non issue. In reality people across the political spectrum disagree. All very depressing.

Edited by IMpalace (28 May 2020 11.53am)

They either don't think they've done anything wrong or see saying sorry as a sign of weakness. It's really quite sociopathic.

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Stirlingsays 28 May 20 12.20pm
Originally posted by DanH They either don't think they've done anything wrong or see saying sorry as a sign of weakness. It's really quite sociopathic. Say sorry Castro. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

28 May 20 12.20pm

Originally posted by DanH

They either don't think they've done anything wrong or see saying sorry as a sign of weakness. It's really quite sociopathic.

Say sorry Castro.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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DanH SW2 28 May 20 1.23pm
Awkward. [Tweet Link]
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DanH

SW2 28 May 20 1.23pm

Awkward.

[Tweet Link]

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cryrst The garden of England 28 May 20 1.23pm
Originally posted by DanH They either don't think they've done anything wrong or see saying sorry as a sign of weakness. It's really quite sociopathic. Sorry if you have done something wrong certainly. Now where is that police report?
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cryrst

The garden of England 28 May 20 1.23pm

Originally posted by DanH

They either don't think they've done anything wrong or see saying sorry as a sign of weakness. It's really quite sociopathic.

Sorry if you have done something wrong certainly.
Now where is that police report?

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 May 20 1.33pm
Originally posted by DanH Awkward. [Tweet Link] A ‘minor breach.’ The same minor breach all the labour MP’s made. If he’s for the death penalty then they are too. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 28 May 20 1.33pm

Originally posted by DanH

Awkward.

[Tweet Link]

A ‘minor breach.’ The same minor breach all the labour MP’s made.

If he’s for the death penalty then they are too.

COYP

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chris123 hove actually 28 May 20 1.43pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman A ‘minor breach.’ The same minor breach all the labour MP’s made. If he’s for the death penalty then they are too. They said might have.
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chris123

hove actually 28 May 20 1.43pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

A ‘minor breach.’ The same minor breach all the labour MP’s made.

If he’s for the death penalty then they are too.

They said might have.

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IMpalace London 28 May 20 1.57pm
To those defending him, does anyone actually believe that in order to test his eye sight he packed his wife and 5 year old into a car and drove round for an hour and a half with them? Does the barefaced lie to the public not bother you? I agree that the lockdown breach was relatively minor and unlikely to have had a major impact, but it really bothers me to watch him treat us all like f*cking idiots and expect us to believe what is obviously a lie. As I said, having to accept obvious lies removes accountability from anyone's actions and is something I desperately hoped would remain on the other side of the pond's political sphere. Edited by IMpalace (28 May 2020 2.02pm)
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IMpalace

London 28 May 20 1.57pm

To those defending him, does anyone actually believe that in order to test his eye sight he packed his wife and 5 year old into a car and drove round for an hour and a half with them? Does the barefaced lie to the public not bother you?

I agree that the lockdown breach was relatively minor and unlikely to have had a major impact, but it really bothers me to watch him treat us all like f*cking idiots and expect us to believe what is obviously a lie.

As I said, having to accept obvious lies removes accountability from anyone's actions and is something I desperately hoped would remain on the other side of the pond's political sphere.

Edited by IMpalace (28 May 2020 2.02pm)

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Stirlingsays 28 May 20 2.06pm
Originally posted by IMpalace To those defending him, does anyone actually believe that in order to test his eye sight he packed his wife and 5 year old into a car and drove round for an hour and a half with them? Does the barefaced lie to the public not bother you? I agree that the lockdown breach was relatively minor and unlikely to have had a major impact, but it really bothers me to watch him treat us all like fcking idiots and expect us to believe what is obviously a lie. As I said, having to accept obvious lies removes accountability from anyone's actions and is something I desperately hoped would remain on the other side of the pond's political sphere. Edited by IMpalace (28 May 2020 2.02pm) Why are you so sure this is a lie? People do stupid s**e all the time. Sure it could be or probably is a lie or it could be partly true. As for your apparent faith in UK politics.....eh? . Who has been this honest politician you've grown so use to? Edited by Stirlingsays (28 May 2020 2.07pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

28 May 20 2.06pm

Originally posted by IMpalace

As I said, having to accept obvious lies removes accountability from anyone's actions and is something I desperately hoped would remain on the other side of the pond's political sphere.

Edited by IMpalace (28 May 2020 2.02pm)

Why are you so sure this is a lie?

People do stupid s***e all the time. Sure it could be or probably is a lie or it could be partly true.

As for your apparent faith in UK politics.....eh? . Who has been this honest politician you've grown so use to?

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 May 2020 2.07pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 May 20 2.06pm
He might have meant testing his health and fitness to drive 260 miles by driving 30 mins for a stop and 30 mins back. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 28 May 20 2.06pm

He might have meant testing his health and fitness to drive 260 miles by driving 30 mins for a stop and 30 mins back.

COYP

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chris123 hove actually 28 May 20 2.09pm
Originally posted by IMpalace To those defending him, does anyone actually believe that in order to test his eye sight he packed his wife and 5 year old into a car and drove round for an hour and a half with them? Does the barefaced lie to the public not bother you? I agree that the lockdown breach was relatively minor and unlikely to have had a major impact, but it really bothers me to watch him treat us all like f*cking idiots and expect us to believe what is obviously a lie. As I said, having to accept obvious lies removes accountability from anyone's actions and is something I desperately hoped would remain on the other side of the pond's political sphere. Edited by IMpalace (28 May 2020 2.02pm) What do you want the Police to do then?
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chris123

hove actually 28 May 20 2.09pm

Originally posted by IMpalace

As I said, having to accept obvious lies removes accountability from anyone's actions and is something I desperately hoped would remain on the other side of the pond's political sphere.

Edited by IMpalace (28 May 2020 2.02pm)

What do you want the Police to do then?

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IMpalace London 28 May 20 2.19pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Why are you so sure this is a lie? People do stupid s***e all the time. Sure it could be or probably is a lie or it could be partly true. As for your apparent faith in UK politics.....eh? . Who has been this honest politician you've grown so use to? Edited by Stirlingsays (28 May 2020 2.07pm) It's not faith in UK politics. Politicians are liars and always have been, however, to me there is a difference between policy changes, falling through on things you said you would do and all the other junk that you typically have in politics and somebody telling you to believe something that is nigh on impossible to believe. The thing that bothers me is that him and Boris must know nonbody is going to believe this, they just don't care. It's like I'm in 1984. Doublethink is not something I am used to.
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IMpalace

London 28 May 20 2.19pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Why are you so sure this is a lie?

People do stupid s***e all the time. Sure it could be or probably is a lie or it could be partly true.

As for your apparent faith in UK politics.....eh? . Who has been this honest politician you've grown so use to?

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 May 2020 2.07pm)

It's not faith in UK politics. Politicians are liars and always have been, however, to me there is a difference between policy changes, falling through on things you said you would do and all the other junk that you typically have in politics and somebody telling you to believe something that is nigh on impossible to believe. The thing that bothers me is that him and Boris must know nonbody is going to believe this, they just don't care.

It's like I'm in 1984. Doublethink is not something I am used to.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 May 20 2.20pm
Originally posted by chris123 What do you want the Police to do then? Tasering him would be entertaining. I don't even mind him, but I would watch that. A bit like The Hangover. Red and Blue Army!
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