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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 17 May 20 9.03am
Our solar system is huge, and our galaxy (as much as we know, is mahoosive). It would seem implausible for aliens to make such regular trips to Earth, travelling huge distances, not to make themselves 'known'. A lot of UFO sightings have been recorded from witnesses after leaving a pub. A bit like the Loch Ness monster. Which kind of impacts credibility a bit. I disengage, I turn the page.
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Our solar system is huge, and our galaxy (as much as we know, is mahoosive). It would seem implausible for aliens to make such regular trips to Earth, travelling huge distances, not to make themselves 'known'.

A lot of UFO sightings have been recorded from witnesses after leaving a pub. A bit like the Loch Ness monster. Which kind of impacts credibility a bit.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 17 May 20 9.13am
In the late 1970's, early 1980's I used to watch a Sunday Lunchtime USA TV programme called 'Project bluebook'. Actors playing UFO investigators to suspicious air-bourne incidents, These fictional episodes always concluded (like most Dissertations), "I guess we'll never know. More research is needed" I disengage, I turn the page.
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in a hidey-hole 17 May 20 9.13am

In the late 1970's, early 1980's I used to watch a Sunday Lunchtime USA TV programme called 'Project bluebook'. Actors playing UFO investigators to suspicious air-bourne incidents,

These fictional episodes always concluded (like most Dissertations), "I guess we'll never know. More research is needed"

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 17 May 20 9.17am
And finally. Intelligent life can be discovered far more readily by communications than space travel. Earth has been transmitting radio waves since the 1940's (light-speed). It seems strange that aliens would not intercept these transmissions and respond, but choose to visit instead. I disengage, I turn the page.
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And finally. Intelligent life can be discovered far more readily by communications than space travel.
Earth has been transmitting radio waves since the 1940's (light-speed).
It seems strange that aliens would not intercept these transmissions and respond, but choose to visit instead.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Stirlingsays 17 May 20 9.20am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Our solar system is huge, and our galaxy (as much as we know, is mahoosive). It would seem implausible for aliens to make such regular trips to Earth, travelling huge distances, not to make themselves 'known'. A lot of UFO sightings have been recorded from witnesses after leaving a pub. A bit like the Loch Ness monster. Which kind of impacts credibility a bit. This is true. However, two hundred years ago it seemed implausible that we could create a photograph. There are huge gaps remaining in our understanding of nature. If we are allowed the passage of time to continue upon scientific discovery who knows what's around the corner. A lot of UFO sightings are no doubt false. However, there is plenty of evidence from respected and trusted sources. That doesn't mean we have proof that UFOs are aliens but it does mean that there is a case for them. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 May 2020 9.20am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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17 May 20 9.20am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Our solar system is huge, and our galaxy (as much as we know, is mahoosive). It would seem implausible for aliens to make such regular trips to Earth, travelling huge distances, not to make themselves 'known'.

A lot of UFO sightings have been recorded from witnesses after leaving a pub. A bit like the Loch Ness monster. Which kind of impacts credibility a bit.

This is true.

However, two hundred years ago it seemed implausible that we could create a photograph.

There are huge gaps remaining in our understanding of nature. If we are allowed the passage of time to continue upon scientific discovery who knows what's around the corner.

A lot of UFO sightings are no doubt false. However, there is plenty of evidence from respected and trusted sources.

That doesn't mean we have proof that UFOs are aliens but it does mean that there is a case for them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 May 2020 9.20am)

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Badger11 Beckenham 17 May 20 9.52am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Our solar system is huge, and our galaxy (as much as we know, is mahoosive). It would seem implausible for aliens to make such regular trips to Earth, travelling huge distances, not to make themselves 'known'. A lot of UFO sightings have been recorded from witnesses after leaving a pub. A bit like the Loch Ness monster. Which kind of impacts credibility a bit. I often wonder about so called alien abductions. Blokes gets chatty with a lady in a bar gets drunk ends up at her place next day he has to explain this to his wife? There was a very good documentary made by a geologist debunking most UFO myth's. He wasn't anti UFO just came up with plausible scientific explanations for the major themes. It certainly made me think for instance: He's area of expertise was earthquakes he noticed by reviewing data and the media that ball lightening was a precursor to many earth tremors. He then noticed then around the same time the number of UFO sighting and alien encounters went up considerably which is how he got interested in UFOs. Well ball lightning could explain UFO sightings but what about alien abductions. He interviewed a number of abductees who had similar stories they were driving along in a secluded road saw a bright light the car stopped electronics went haywire and then they passed out and woke up later their watches were off etc. The abductees only remembered the abduction part under hypnosis he concluded that these recovered memories were false as the hypnotherapists had an interest in UFOs and so intentionally or unintentionally contaminated the memories. He actually sent a fake student to one of them and secretly taped it the fake never said he saw an alien but the therapist suggested to the fake what he had seen. Retrieving memories under hypnosis is now largely discredited by the medical profession. Okay so maybe the abductee misunderstood what they saw but what about the car breaking down and everything going haywire and the abductees saying they felt a presence before the hypnosis. Well a ball of lightning will play havoc with electronics in fact the US military has experimented with an electromagnetic weapon designed to disabled a car in a police pursuit. So what about the feeling of being watched. He left some students in a dark room and passed a low voltage current through their head. Even though they knew they were alone they all reported a sinister presence and feeling scared now imagine if you were on your own on a dark road in the middle of nowhere and your car was going crazy. Anyway I found this program very plausible and probably explains a lot of the so called alien sightings although not all. Edited by Badger11 (17 May 2020 9.56am) One more point
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Beckenham 17 May 20 9.52am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

A lot of UFO sightings have been recorded from witnesses after leaving a pub. A bit like the Loch Ness monster. Which kind of impacts credibility a bit.

I often wonder about so called alien abductions. Blokes gets chatty with a lady in a bar gets drunk ends up at her place next day he has to explain this to his wife?

There was a very good documentary made by a geologist debunking most UFO myth's. He wasn't anti UFO just came up with plausible scientific explanations for the major themes. It certainly made me think for instance:

He's area of expertise was earthquakes he noticed by reviewing data and the media that ball lightening was a precursor to many earth tremors. He then noticed then around the same time the number of UFO sighting and alien encounters went up considerably which is how he got interested in UFOs. Well ball lightning could explain UFO sightings but what about alien abductions.

He interviewed a number of abductees who had similar stories they were driving along in a secluded road saw a bright light the car stopped electronics went haywire and then they passed out and woke up later their watches were off etc.

The abductees only remembered the abduction part under hypnosis he concluded that these recovered memories were false as the hypnotherapists had an interest in UFOs and so intentionally or unintentionally contaminated the memories. He actually sent a fake student to one of them and secretly taped it the fake never said he saw an alien but the therapist suggested to the fake what he had seen. Retrieving memories under hypnosis is now largely discredited by the medical profession.

Okay so maybe the abductee misunderstood what they saw but what about the car breaking down and everything going haywire and the abductees saying they felt a presence before the hypnosis. Well a ball of lightning will play havoc with electronics in fact the US military has experimented with an electromagnetic weapon designed to disabled a car in a police pursuit.

So what about the feeling of being watched. He left some students in a dark room and passed a low voltage current through their head. Even though they knew they were alone they all reported a sinister presence and feeling scared now imagine if you were on your own on a dark road in the middle of nowhere and your car was going crazy.

Anyway I found this program very plausible and probably explains a lot of the so called alien sightings although not all.

Edited by Badger11 (17 May 2020 9.56am)

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Stirlingsays 17 May 20 10.01am
Originally posted by Badger11 I often wonder about so called alien abductions. Blokes gets chatty with a lady in a bar gets drunk ends up at her place next day he has to explain this to his wife? There was a very good documentary made by a geologist debunking most UFO myth's. He wasn't anti UFO just came up with plausible scientific explanations for the major themes. It certainly made me think for instance: He's area of expertise was earthquakes he noticed by reviewing data and the media that ball lightening was a precursor to many earth tremors. He then noticed then around the same time the number of UFO sighting and alien encounters went up considerably which is how he got interested in UFOs. Well ball lightning could explain UFO sightings but what about alien abductions. He interviewed a number of abductees who had similar stories they were driving along in a secluded road saw a bright light the car stopped electronics went haywire and then they passed out and woke up later their watches were off etc. The abductees only remembered the abduction part under hypnosis he concluded that these recovered memories were false as the hypnotherapists had an interest in UFOs and so intentionally or unintentionally contaminated the memories. He actually sent a fake student to one of them and secretly taped it the fake never said he saw an alien but the therapist suggested to the fake what he had seen. Retrieving memories under hypnosis is now largely discredited by the medical profession. Okay so maybe the abductee misunderstood what they saw but what about the car breaking down and everything going haywire and the abductees saying they felt a presence before the hypnosis. Well a ball of lightning will play havoc with electronics in fact the US military has experimented with an electromagnetic weapon designed to disabled a car in a police pursuit. So what about the feeling of being watched. He left some students in a dark room and passed a low voltage current through their head. Even though they knew they were alone they all reported a sinister presence and feeling scared now imagine if you were on your own on a dark road in the middle of nowhere and your car was going crazy. Anyway I found this program very plausible and probably explains a lot of the so called alien sightings although not all. Edited by Badger11 (17 May 2020 9.56am) I had alien like balls of lightening all the way through my twenties. Close encounters of the third kind doesn't come close. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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17 May 20 10.01am

Originally posted by Badger11

I often wonder about so called alien abductions. Blokes gets chatty with a lady in a bar gets drunk ends up at her place next day he has to explain this to his wife?

Anyway I found this program very plausible and probably explains a lot of the so called alien sightings although not all.

Edited by Badger11 (17 May 2020 9.56am)

I had alien like balls of lightening all the way through my twenties.

Close encounters of the third kind doesn't come close.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Badger11 Beckenham 17 May 20 10.07am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I had alien like balls of lightening all the way through my twenties. Close encounters of the third kind doesn't come close. I think you can get a cream for that. One more point
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Beckenham 17 May 20 10.07am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I had alien like balls of lightening all the way through my twenties.

Close encounters of the third kind doesn't come close.

I think you can get a cream for that.

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Stirlingsays 17 May 20 10.09am
Originally posted by Badger11 I think you can get a cream for that. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

17 May 20 10.09am

Originally posted by Badger11

I think you can get a cream for that.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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mr. apollo Somewhere in Switzerland 17 May 20 12.37pm
You may think it's a long way to the chemist's but to space that is just peanuts... Paraphrased as I was too lazy to look it up. Glad All Over
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Somewhere in Switzerland 17 May 20 12.37pm

You may think it's a long way to the chemist's but to space that is just peanuts...

Paraphrased as I was too lazy to look it up.

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Hrolf The Ganger 17 May 20 12.49pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Our solar system is huge, and our galaxy (as much as we know, is mahoosive). It would seem implausible for aliens to make such regular trips to Earth, travelling huge distances, not to make themselves 'known'. A lot of UFO sightings have been recorded from witnesses after leaving a pub. A bit like the Loch Ness monster. Which kind of impacts credibility a bit. I think your post perfectly represents the kind of attitude that prevails regarding this subject. It makes assumptions that cannot be assumed and compares apples to oranges. No, UFO experiences are not just the territory of hicks and nutters and must not be lumped together with all the twaddle you see on the History Channel. On this subject, I think you just have to look at the available evidence in the proper context, try to resist preconceptions, and be prepared to accept that our current knowledge of the Universe could well be insufficient to understand the potential for just about anything outside of our normal realm. I often think about what we would do if we were capable of interstellar travel and had a load of other 'magical' technology at our disposal. Would we not travel to other planets and investigate any civilisations that we might discover? Would we not try to keep our presence as low key as possible when dealing with inferior civilisations? Would we not just want to gain knowledge for knowledge sake? You have to assume that anyone capable of doing these things has unlimited energy, a far greater grasp of physics and probably a big head start on us to attain that level. It's not really that hard to imagine and it is certainly not hard to imaging that our world governments would do practically anything to keep it a secret and exploit the situation where and if possible. Churchill had the incidences of 'foo fighters' locked away for 50 years because he thought that public knowledge of possible otherwordly beings could undermine religion and destroy society.
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17 May 20 12.49pm

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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

A lot of UFO sightings have been recorded from witnesses after leaving a pub. A bit like the Loch Ness monster. Which kind of impacts credibility a bit.

I think your post perfectly represents the kind of attitude that prevails regarding this subject.

It makes assumptions that cannot be assumed and compares apples to oranges.
No, UFO experiences are not just the territory of hicks and nutters and must not be lumped together with all the twaddle you see on the History Channel.

On this subject, I think you just have to look at the available evidence in the proper context, try to resist preconceptions, and be prepared to accept that our current knowledge of the Universe could well be insufficient to understand the potential for just about anything outside of our normal realm.

I often think about what we would do if we were capable of interstellar travel and had a load of other 'magical' technology at our disposal.
Would we not travel to other planets and investigate any civilisations that we might discover? Would we not try to keep our presence as low key as possible when dealing with inferior civilisations?
Would we not just want to gain knowledge for knowledge sake?
You have to assume that anyone capable of doing these things has unlimited energy, a far greater grasp of physics and probably a big head start on us to attain that level.
It's not really that hard to imagine and it is certainly not hard to imaging that our world governments would do practically anything to keep it a secret and exploit the situation where and if possible.

Churchill had the incidences of 'foo fighters' locked away for 50 years because he thought that public knowledge of possible otherwordly beings could undermine religion and destroy society.

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Lombardinho London 17 May 20 4.15pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I think your post perfectly represents the kind of attitude that prevails regarding this subject. It makes assumptions that cannot be assumed and compares apples to oranges. No, UFO experiences are not just the territory of hicks and nutters and must not be lumped together with all the twaddle you see on the History Channel. On this subject, I think you just have to look at the available evidence in the proper context, try to resist preconceptions, and be prepared to accept that our current knowledge of the Universe could well be insufficient to understand the potential for just about anything outside of our normal realm. I often think about what we would do if we were capable of interstellar travel and had a load of other 'magical' technology at our disposal. Would we not travel to other planets and investigate any civilisations that we might discover? Would we not try to keep our presence as low key as possible when dealing with inferior civilisations? Would we not just want to gain knowledge for knowledge sake? You have to assume that anyone capable of doing these things has unlimited energy, a far greater grasp of physics and probably a big head start on us to attain that level. It's not really that hard to imagine and it is certainly not hard to imaging that our world governments would do practically anything to keep it a secret and exploit the situation where and if possible. Churchill had the incidences of 'foo fighters' locked away for 50 years because he thought that public knowledge of possible otherwordly beings could undermine religion and destroy society. I think we wouldn't just keep a low profile if we had the capabilities, Hrolf. We would seek to colonise like any other alien race worth their salt. It'd be funny if this thread was merged with the Coronavirus one and it wasn't even any of the Mods who did it!
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London 17 May 20 4.15pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I think your post perfectly represents the kind of attitude that prevails regarding this subject.

Churchill had the incidences of 'foo fighters' locked away for 50 years because he thought that public knowledge of possible otherwordly beings could undermine religion and destroy society.

I think we wouldn't just keep a low profile if we had the capabilities, Hrolf.
We would seek to colonise like any other alien race worth their salt.

It'd be funny if this thread was merged with the Coronavirus one and it wasn't even any of the Mods who did it!

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 17 May 20 5.54pm
I have never watched The History channel. Whatever views i may submit to an internet forum, are totally baseless, as my qualifications/experiences are worthless. Politics and religions are designed to make the masses submissive. (my opinion) UFO's are a distraction from reality. I disengage, I turn the page.
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in a hidey-hole 17 May 20 5.54pm

I have never watched The History channel. Whatever views i may submit to an internet forum, are totally baseless, as my qualifications/experiences are worthless.
Politics and religions are designed to make the masses submissive. (my opinion)

UFO's are a distraction from reality.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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