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Spiderman Horsham 05 Apr 20 7.50pm | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
"In 2009, the paedophile Jimmy Savile was interviewed under caution by police in Surrey and Sussex. Subsequently, the police referred 4 cases to the CPS alleging that Jimmy Savile had abused 3 girls under the age of 16. He has a young daughter, wonder whether he gives any thoughts to the victims/parents of the victims or indeed their Human Rights
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Stirlingsays 05 Apr 20 7.50pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Yes, definately looks the part, whether he walks the walk is another thing! He looks like that shifty bloke who turns up at the door to chat your mum up a month after your Dad's died. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Apr 2020 7.50pm)
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Apr 20 8.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
He looks like that shifty bloke who turns up at the door to chat your mum up a month after your Dad's died. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Apr 2020 7.50pm) Ha, well basically looks normal compared to boris i guess, but thats not hard, not sure if he will be any good, time will tell but i wont be lumping on at 5/2 just yet!
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cpfc_chap koh samui 05 Apr 20 8.23pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Yes, definately looks the part, whether he walks the walk is another thing! Well he can't do worse than corbyn surely! Just can't see Labour getting there working class voters back!
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Matov 05 Apr 20 8.28pm | |
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The simple question is can Starmer win Labour a majority in England? Because that is what electoral politics boils down to now? Effectively he has 4 years before he is put to the ultimate test. Given current events then any and everything is up in the air but if I was him then I would be focused more on assuming full control of the Labour Party first before worrying about the Tories. Because those Momentum types ain't going to go down without a huge fight and the reality is that they are the ones who can put a lot of boots on the ground when it comes to campaigning. Labour actually need them because they are the driven ones. The Labour Party conference will be the first time when you can genuinely get a feel for how he is doing. But, and to give credit where it is due, then his initial noises about meeting with the Government and backing stricter isolation measures if required have ticked all the right boxes. Already feels different from how Corbyn would have acted and that can only be a positive. However, I think there is still a huge chance that Labour may well split. Our FPTP system is the only glue holding it together given the ideological differences between what was its traditional white working class vote and the more Socially Liberal membership that dominates. The question is can Starmer hold Putney and win back Blythe Valley? Now I am sure he has zero problems with SW15 but up in NE24? That is the conundrum.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Apr 20 8.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
The simple question is can Starmer win Labour a majority in England? Because that is what electoral politics boils down to now? Effectively he has 4 years before he is put to the ultimate test. Given current events then any and everything is up in the air but if I was him then I would be focused more on assuming full control of the Labour Party first before worrying about the Tories. Because those Momentum types ain't going to go down without a huge fight and the reality is that they are the ones who can put a lot of boots on the ground when it comes to campaigning. Labour actually need them because they are the driven ones. The Labour Party conference will be the first time when you can genuinely get a feel for how he is doing. But, and to give credit where it is due, then his initial noises about meeting with the Government and backing stricter isolation measures if required have ticked all the right boxes. Already feels different from how Corbyn would have acted and that can only be a positive. However, I think there is still a huge chance that Labour may well split. Our FPTP system is the only glue holding it together given the ideological differences between what was its traditional white working class vote and the more Socially Liberal membership that dominates. The question is can Starmer hold Putney and win back Blythe Valley? Now I am sure he has zero problems with SW15 but up in NE24? That is the conundrum. I don"t have much faith in the cons so any slick opposition leader has a chance, just tell lies and hope the gullable believe you, boris was sacked twice over the years for lying, and it didn"t do him any harm, better to just speak the truth and deliver obvs!
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Apr 20 8.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
So the new leader of the Labour Party is possibly not adverse to a funny handshake! As I said more Tory than many Tories He must have gone to the same school as the conservative pm cameron, London mayor boris, and chancellor osborne, in the great Uber scandal a few years ago-its just business apparently!
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cryrst The garden of England 05 Apr 20 9.03pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
He must have gone to the same school as the conservative pm cameron, London mayor boris, and chancellor osborne, in the great Uber scandal a few years ago-its just business apparently! You seem very protective of the red party.
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dynamicdick Dormansland 05 Apr 20 9.05pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
If you wanted to be an electable party would you want Momentum to do your campaigning and here lies his biggest problem.....keeping them and the other hard lefties happy and to do this he has got to throw in a few radical policies such as nationalising the railways, water etc.
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beak croydon 05 Apr 20 9.38pm | |
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Originally posted by dynamicdick
If you wanted to be an electable party would you want Momentum to do your campaigning and here lies his biggest problem.....keeping them and the other hard lefties happy and to do this he has got to throw in a few radical policies such as nationalising the railways, water etc.
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Spiderman Horsham 05 Apr 20 9.40pm | |
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Born in Palace territory.. Oxted but is a gooner
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Apr 20 10.07pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
You seem very protective of the red party. Yes , you are right, a centre left party is the way forward, i don2t actually dislike Boris, just seen the cons do so much skullduggery and get away with it from the press and voters that i like to stick the knife in when i see fit, like the Italian flights and PPE for instance, and would feel the same if corbyn had made same mistakes, but if he had most people on here and the press would crucify him, but when the con leader does it, it goes down as unchartered waters and is to be expected, thats what gets me typing!
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